Re: Oracle licence question

From: Mark Townsend <markbtownsend_at_comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:48:11 -0800
Message-ID: <440205FB.6040403@comcast.net>

Tony Rogerson wrote:

>>What level is ANSI SQL compliance does Microsoft claim - can you provide a 
>>citation ?

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> ANSI 92 - check Books Online.

I did and I couldn't find the citation, which is why I asked you for it. I want to check what level of ANSI compliance MS claims, to validate your claim that their implementation of SQL is somehow more the ANSI standard compliant than Oracle's. Note that Oracle does this at http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/server.102/b14200/ap_standard_sql003.htm#i7719

I'm looking for the MS corresponding compliance statement. Can you provide a URL ?

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>>Here's the published current salary costs of both sets of DBA's in the UK
>>Oracle - http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/oracle.do
>>SQL Server - http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/sql%20server%20dba.do
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>>There shows that there is less than a 3-13% differential between the min 
>>and max salary ranges. Hardly a lot higher at all.
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> Very clever Mark, but I think you really want to compare like for like, so
> you ought to compare Oracle DBA with SQL Server DBA (like for like) and you
> get a more accurate result, if you compare 'oracle' with 'sql server' its
> even worse....
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> DBA...
> Oracle Min/Max £40,073 £45,219
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> SQL Server Min/Max £36,128 £40,846
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> Just search on product...
> £39,363 £46,026
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> SQL Server Min/Max £33,665 £38,797
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> Thats a big difference!

I did. The page references I gave you provide the following

		Min	MAX
Oracle		39,363	46,026
SQL Server	36,128	40,846

I'm not sure where you are getting some of your figures from

The math is as follows

Difference 8.95% 12.68%

In the previous post, I did make a mistake in the maths with the low end. So the range is 9-13% higher than SQL Server ranges. This is a higher, bit is not substantially higher. And as I indicated, I believe that this is because, on average, the Oracle DBAs are managing systems with more mission critical requirements.

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>>http://www.theedison.com/research/gems/040401rdbmscmcs.pdf

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> I wonder who has commissioned the report? Looking at the detailed tasks it
> starts to get a bit interesting and bias toward Oracle starts to be shown,
> for instance; the set up and seperate service pack installation - counted as
> one and not broken down - mmmm.
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> I await the next report with interested and will also look for more bias,
> perhaps I will download your trial and try it for myself and write up the
> results as a whitepaper of my own!

Please do. Feel free to bring your own bias to the party. We have admired your constraint in not doing so so far. Received on Sun Feb 26 2006 - 13:48:11 CST