Re: Hmmm, it's starting....

Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message news:<1074726596.625044_at_yasure>...
> Joel Garry wrote:
>
> > Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message news:<1074651771.391111_at_yasure>...
> >
> >>Joel Garry wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I kinda wish they would announce when I can get cd's for things that
> >>>are already certified. And is there a release date anywhere for 10g
> >>>database? News and Events on metalink seems to think 9iR2 is hot
> >>>stuff.
> >>
> >>When released it won't be a secret anywhere on this planet where
> >>electricity exists. But I think very soon ... weeks not months.
> >
> >
> > Well, I start the project tomorrow, and if it is available tomorrow, I
> > use it, if not, I'm not a big fan of adding a major version upgrade in
> > the middle of a project, even a project that is amenable to the latest
> > and greatest. I expect the W2K version won't be the first out the
> > gate, anyways. Still wish I had some solid evidence Linux is better
> > (although I faithfully believe it is).
>
> Come on out an use the PSOUG's RAC lab. Red Hat Linux AS is simple,
> stable, and far more secure.

Wish I had someone to pay me to do that! I was hoping to be able to convince this customer to let me wedge in a linux v. windows test on these machines, but if I can't get the production W versions, can't do that. That's really frustrating, because it's an uphill battle for linux, and I'm sure it would put up a good fight on its own.

>
> >>>Some would argue those old versions of Oracle _were_ beta's :-)
> >>
> >>You don't mean 8.1.5, 8.1.6, 9.0.1, and 9.0.2 by any chance? ;-)
> >
> >
> > I was thinking more of 2,3,4,5,6 and some part of 7, but they'll do.
>
> So you liked 1.0?

Ya got me, I missed 2 and 4 :-) For lurkers who don't know about 1, http://otn.oracle.com/oramag/oracle/03-may/o33drdba.html

>
> >>Well I'm still waiting for more information about the last "stable"
> >>version ... 7.3.5. ;-)
> >>
> >><rant>
> >>Come on folks get over the testosterone and hyperbole. No Beta has ever
> >>been offered to all licensed users by any major software company since
> >>MS made that mistake: Once.
> >>
> >>If you want to be a Beta site for 10.1 or 10.2 or whatever it will be
> >>what is stopping you from applying right this minute? You don't truly
> >>believe 10g is the last software release Oracle will ever have. So get
> >>down off your pedestal and ask to be included if you think you have
> >>something to offer. If you don't apply please stop crying about the fact
> >>that others made the effort.
> >></rant>
> >>
> >>Note: The preceding rant not directed at Joel.
> >
> > Good rant, but I would think it is silly to ask for a Beta as
> > production is about to be released?
>
> A Beta of 10.0 of course. But if they want to be a Beta site then how
> long before Oracle starts Beta testing 10.1 or 10.2? A few months at most.

Is it serialized? Somehow I get the feeling it isn't. There's just so many parts to it all at differing life points, I have trouble visualizing how they can declare a production release, much less discrete betas. Especially now that, once again, I'm going through the 9iASR2 morass. Si, no 10gAS bananas.

>
> > I think Oracle at best blundered in that it gave people the feeling
> > they are outsiders with this whole cloistered beta thing. I'm not
> > sure that it could have been avoided, given the organizational changes
> > they must have made to avoid the Real Soon Now delay like with 8.0.
> > On the other hand, it's been how long for 10?
> >
> > I'll have FUD, FUD, FUD, FUD, FUD, FUD, FUD and eggs.
> >
> > jg
> > --
> > @home.com is bogus.
> > Follow the patents!
> > http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/wed/business/news_1b21surebeam.html
>
> Does FUD taste better with Ketchup?

Call any vegetable!
http://www.imdb.com/find?tt=on;nm=on;mx=20;q=killer%20tomatoes

jg

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