"Sybrand Bakker" <gooiditweg_at_sybrandb.demon.nl> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 03:33:37 GMT, "jim" <jmmcda_at_mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> >I actually believe it works the other way around. Those who refuse to
> >embrace the guis will be those left in the dust of the careers of those
who
> >have learned how to master the gui tools. We will never be done with
TOAD,
> >yet as we implement more and more developer and DBA requested features
that
> >reduce mundane chores into single clicks, we force more and more Sql*Plus
> >dependent dinosaurs into the tar pits.
>
> This is of course the usual stupid argument.
> I have found that those people who start out using GUIs will actually
> NEVER LEARN SQL!
> They are stuck with all the defaults TOAD and other tools force them
> to use. Are those defaults always 'smart' NO. Do those GUI-types know
> how to change the defaults? NO!
> What are those GUI types where they end up in a situation they don't
> have a GUI (believe me those situations DO exist, at least as there is
> no X implementation of TOAD and other GUIs and many Unix servers don't
> even have X running, or in situation where the server is behind a
> firewall and needs to be managed using VNC or Timbukto Pro, or God
> forbid, Microsoft Terminal Services). They are COMPLETELY HELPLESS
> because they DON'T KNOW SQL!!
> More questions arise: does TOAD have reporting capabilities as sqlplus
> HAS? NO. Does it support input and output redirecting. NO!
>
> Those who embrace GUIs will appear to be mentally retarted and
> helpless, because TOAD will ALWAYS be a few releases behind Sql*plus!
>
> In the end the dinosaurs will make the CLUELESS gui DOMBOS obsolete,
> because the dinosaurs have learned to THINK, and the gui dombos have
> only learned to CLICK.
> Now which one is better?
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> Sybrand Bakker, Senior Oracle DBA
>
Gui-types, mentally retarded, clueless Dombos, Obsolete... What a great
old-fashioned tirade against progress this is!
Received on Thu Aug 29 2002 - 06:55:07 CDT
