Re: Another License Review

What's "wonderful" about this is this isn't a single app or a couple of apps. This is a situation where we have upwards of 100 apps, smeared across hundreds of environments running 9i through 12c, various RAC sizes, Data Guard here and there, OGG, Exadata X4 and X6, blah blah blah. My opinion has no impact as it's a decision many levels above me. I'm just tasked with evaluating every environment, determining all key features that may impact a DBMS decision and go from there.

If all that wasn't fun enough, we don't have direct Oracle support - we have to go through a 3rd party and if we absolutely need a patch/upgrade we pay for it as needed.

Dave

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 4:39 PM, <ora_kclosson_at_yahoo.com> wrote:

> What sort of app did that customer have that gives them the freedom to
> think about a different RDBMS? Surely no Oracle "4GLs" (Forms, APEX, etc).
> Is it all Java with ORM like Hibernate?
>
> On Nov 1, 2017 1:15 PM, Dave Herring <gdherri_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm now finally involved with a client who has gone down this road and
> Oracle lost the discussion. Of course legally I can neither confirm nor
> deny how many millions were involved in the ULA that was cancelled along
> with neither confirming nor denying any outright effort to move to a
> different vendor. :-)
>
> Dave
>
> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Audits are back, for some time now:
>
> http://fortune.com/2015/09/14/oracle-plays-hardball/
>
> The best way to stop that practice is to change the DB vendor.
> Fortunately, there are 3 large competitors to Oracle Corp: Microsoft, IBM
> and SAP. Oracle will stop doing that when they lose sufficient number of
> customers. It's called "market economy". Technological gap between Oracle
> and their competitors has shrunk significantly. SQL Server 2016 and DB2
> 11.1 are excellent databases which can do almost anything that Oracle can
> do. DB2 can even execute PL/SQL natively. I am not so sure about SAP Hana,
> but there is an increasing number of adopters. One way of avoiding vendor
> lock-in is using Java-based MVC frameworks like Spring and Hibernate. I
> would avoid applications written specifically for Oracle and always
> consider database neutral alternatives, should they exist.
>
> Regards
>
> On 11/01/2017 01:17 PM, Chris Taylor wrote:
>
> I think I read a few months (a year?) that Oracle had stepped up its
> license reviews as a way to generate revenue.
>
> I'll have to see if I can find it again.
>
> Chris
>
>
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> Mladen Gogala
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> Tel: (347) 321-1217
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> Dave
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Dave

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