Re: training for new DBA's

From: Jeff C <backseatdba_at_gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 22:11:57 -0800
Message-ID: <CAKsxbLq+LHVoqvoODhS-Fi23Gw4z28nzYFG9D2MHcKixrh3Wgw_at_mail.gmail.com>

Hi Rick,
I agree that classroom training is the best. But at this point I just need to find out if this person has the potential to be a good DBA. I need to give him some stuff to read and practice on and then test him. He is showing a lot of interest which is good.

On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Ric Van Dyke <ric.van.dyke_at_hotsos.com>wrote:

> >> Consider that you want your trainee to succeed, but s/he may not want
> to be a DBA in 6 months or a year ... have your time and company money been
> totally wasted?
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> Gee, then why train anyone eh? Seriously LACK of training can be just as
> much a deterrent on retention. Giving good training on a regular bases is
> likely to keep folks around not the opposite.
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> Being in the education world as I am, I believe in classroom training,
> next online and then very last self-training like books and CBT type.
> Books and CBTs are excellent for refresher or "feature" type training.
> (Like, how to I use virtual columns?) But to learn something "new" it's
> quite hard to do with that style of training.
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> I know from personal experience when I was a neophyte DBA that just taking
> 2 DBA/SQL classes back then shot me way up the curve. I had been
> struggling for 18 months or so before my first class. Sure the databases
> "worked" but wow! Once I had some formal training things really got going
> much better and I had a much better idea of what to even look at.
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> Training might appear to be expensive, but ignorance is far more.
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> *From:* oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org [mailto:
> oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] *On Behalf Of *Wayne Smith
> *Sent:* Monday, February 03, 2014 2:48 PM
> *To:* oracle-l_at_freelists.org
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> *Subject:* Re: training for new DBA's
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> Wow, I think I disagree with just about every response here, except for
> the need of sandboxes. (Sorry!)
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> I think you should look at what you need from your new DBA(s).
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> DBAs come in all shapes, interests and skills, as will your would-be DBA
> trainee(s)s. Figure what your company needs from its DBAs and this(these)
> DBA(s) in particular. Make a plan for each one that will get them
> functional, useful and independent as quickly as possible with a plan of
> skill development over the coming months, with a look at progress and needs
> every 3-6-12 months.
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> Consider that you want your trainee to succeed, but s/he may not want to
> be a DBA in 6 months or a year ... have your time and company money been
> totally wasted?
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> Cheers, Wayne
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> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jeff C <backseatdba_at_gmail.com> wrote:
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> We are looking at training a new DBA from scratch (hiring from within) and
> I am looking for any opinions on where/how/what to train this person on. I
> was thinking of starting with just basic SQL and relational database design
> then onto some pl/sql. After that move on to dba stuff.
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> Is there any good free or cheap places to get this kind of training?
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> And how would you test a very beginner candidate to know if they would be
> a good fit for this position. Any questions or tests I good give them?
> What would you look for?
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> This is new to me as I have been mainly the lone dba for years and also
> trained on the job.
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> Thanks for any input.
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> Jeff
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