Re: OT: sheltered little world i live in -> NODB?

From: Mindaugas Navickas <>
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 14:46:49 -0700 (PDT)
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My view might be not very popular within Oracle DBA community, but I found the article very interesting and intriguing. That's true that DBA would start designing application from database. And if that would be Oracle DBA, for sure he/she would start with Oracle EE + RAC + DataGuard with all available packs.  Another point in the article is that new technologies are comming into database market (NoSQL, In-memory, Column-store...) that potencialy can change the DB technology landscape - but again if we apply it where it fits most. Risk is that new technology often is discredited placing it in places where traditional RDBMS would do the best.     This is how I interpreted this... thank you for sharing the article and your views Mike Navickas
Oracle&DB2 DBA
From: Andrew Kerber <> To:
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Subject: Re: OT: sheltered little world i live in -> NODB?

I took it more as someone pointing out that not every application is a database application.  We as DBA's have a great knowledge of database usage, but there is software out there that does not need a database behind it.  And I have seen applications that use Oracle AQ when a simple fifo queue design with a single queue was all that was required to run the entire application.
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Tim Gorman <> wrote:

> My US$0.02...
> When I read that article, especially the part about an implicitly ignorant
> "marketing guy" claiming that a relational database is needed, and that
> flat files won't work, I hear a blinkered technical niche-worker who sees
> only his own little job function and cannot conceive of any other
> requirements, such as downstream data analytics, data mining, and data
> warehousing. I see an organization strangling for lack of ad-hoc access to
> data, choking on the software development lifecycle, flogging overworked
> developers who struggle to churn out new reports from arbitrary and
> unstructured flat-file structures.

Andrew W. Kerber

'If at first you dont succeed, dont take up skydiving.'

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