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Thanks Dennis. I have the book and I really put Mr. Millsap's word
regarding that issue in
my head (the Method R thing) = ) . My bosses just views effective
performance diagnosis
can be achieved ENTIRELY by analyzing systemwide statistics. To be honest,
I have
doubts with this project and I guess i'm doing this just to give them good
night sleeps
thinking that there's an automated mechanism that will tell them when the
database
needs to be fine tuned. How I wish I could tell them that such a mechanism
already exists:
the users and their email clients (or phone if they can't really take
their program's response
time = )). I'm not implying, though, that statspack data is worthless...
I've used it a lot in my entire
career as a DBA and it helped 100% of the time.
Thanks guys!
PS some people are emailing me about products that make use of statspack data.
Boy, have I forgotten that there are lots of it already...
DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM>
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Rohjel
I think you should also consider whether this project will be useful.
STATSPACK only produces statistics aggregated by instance. Cary Millsap in
his new book Optimizing Oracle Performance does a great job of pointing
out
why many problems can't be found by this method and it may even lead to
making wrong decisions that reduce performance.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com
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See yapppack.zip at miracleas.dk
Jared
PS. Please use paragraphs. I hope I am not the only person that finds your post difficult to read.
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03/04/2004 12:34 AM
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Hi Guys,
I want to hear your comments regarding this present endeavor of mine....
My bosses wants to see some form of automated "database performance
indicator reporting" scheme. They want me to create some form of "early
warning device" from this kind of scheme, that is, based on certain
metrics
and some predetermined threshold values, the scheme would notify the
admins
(including me) if the database needs tuning. I talked to my boss and it
was
clear to me that he was thinking of ratios (I guess he stopped learning
about the Oracle RDBMS after 7.3 ;-)). I explained to him the current
paradigm being used by most Oracle DBA's today (I hope) in diagnosing
database performance, i.e. wait events analysis. And I told him that the
metrics that can tell us systemwide performance is provided by Statspack
which is implemented in our site. So, in order to deliver to my bosses
this
scheme that they wanted, I thought of plotting statspack data using
RRDTool.
This is different from what Mr. Burleson did in his book , however. What I
did is I generat ed the values that SPREPORT will produce in its output
(specifically the "load summary -- per transaction metrics", "instance
efficiency percentages", and "top 5 wait events" sections), store it in
the
database, and plotted it to show daily, weekly, and monthly "trends". The
statistics are generated daily for two snapshots (with one hour interval,
i
know this is quite long) taken during operation peak period. So how I got
around the "treshold" values that they demanded? I told them that a
baseline
will be determined, and metrics that shoots up or down dramatically
against
this baseline will be investigated.
I just want to know your thoughts on this. I've been so immersed on this project that I may be missing some important points. = )
TIA
Rhojel