Re: Nature of Oracle-l has changed

Mladen,

My version of the explanation of this goes back to childhood.

When you were in school, just which crowd were those execs in?

The 'in' crowd, the jocks, the party hounds.

If like me, you were one of the 'eggheads', you didn't fit in so well with their clique, and maybe you still don't.

When in school, I was told I would be more popular if I "wasn't so smart". I was even told that once as an adult.

After pondering that for a bit, I decided they could all bite the green weenie if they didn't like it.

This is probably how I earned my Hawkeye Pierce like cynicism, which I do work hard at keeping in check, lest it cause me more problems with the former 'in' folk that I now work for.

'They' don't like it when people are smarter than they are, and understand things they don't understand, and can't hope to understand.

Hmm, this is getting a but cynical, so I guess I'll stop before I provide too much fodder for an HR type that has finally learned how to use google.

Jared

On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 17:19, Mladen Gogala wrote:
>
> On 2003.08.23 18:34, Tim Gorman wrote:
>
> > Six years ago, a CIO commented to me, waving down a corridor which had
> > offices full of developers, "If I had my way, I'd get rid of all of them and
> > replace them with lawyers. We'd buy applications instead of building them
> > and then sue the vendors." My response was something along the lines of "if
> > you think developers are expensive, go price some lawyers", but it certainly
> > bounced off him. At the time, I took it as just another colorful comment
> > from a colorful guy. But he was dead serious, along with his CIO/CFO
> > brethren, and the passing of Y2K and the dot-com bubble pop has expedited
> > his prediction...
>
> I always wondered where does this prejudice against us, computer geeks (my
> apologies to anyone offended by that expression, but I'm a hard core computer
> geek) comes from? I must say that this prejudice is very hard to understand.
> IT people are very well educated, very hard working, regularly willing to
> work long hours and sacrifice their weekends for the benefit of the company.
> I found that very same attitude against the "darned geeks" at several
> executives and managers of several companies I worked for. Even if lawyers
> are much more expensive the programmers, system and database administrators,
> application designers, they are still very willing to make the switch.
> I'm not quite sure why are we so hated? Why would anyone want to kill
> a nice and seet little wabbit?
>
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> Mladen Gogala
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