Oracle-L: RE: Guys: Is this worth $1,749 for 8 year Oracle veteran DBA

From: <Jared.Still_at_radisys.com>
Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 16:28:24 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.004AA994.20020802162824@fatcity.com>

SoftPro doesn't seem to know about it yet.

However, Bookpool.com, Amazon.com, Powells.com and of course, Ora.com all seem to know about it.

Jared

"Fink, Dan" <Dan.Fink_at_mdx.com>
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Jared,
                 I agree with your advantages. I am a big believer in the

last point.
If you don't know how stuff works, you are helpless in the absence of the tool (I'm dealing with this frustration right now...not me, but someone else
who can't live without a certain tool). I am a big believer in figuring out
how things work (a few on the list can vouch for me on that one...), but it
is not always the most economical method to manage many systems. There comes
a point where you don't need to reinvent the wheel and update it for each new release. I don't have access to the advance releases and all platforms of the oracle server, so I am limited in what I can do, even if I had the time.

                 Any tool, whether it is GUI or TUI (like a shell script

that runs in
a cron and emails), can cause disconnect. The fault lies not in the tool, but in the user. Tools don't cause disconnects, People do...

Dan "Waiting for Perl for Oracle DBA's to hit the shelves at SoftPro" Fink

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On Thursday 01 August 2002 09:45, Fink, Dan wrote:
> Case in point, many databases with
> few dbas. Logging in each morning to each database and checking status
and
> metrics is very inefficient. By the time all the databases are checked,
the
> day is over. This leaves no time to diagnose and repair problems.
Scheduled
> jobs (cron/AT/dbms_job) that query the database/logs and send email is
more
> effecient. At this point you have a tool. A monitoring tool, properly
> architected and configured, can assist greatly by allowing the dbas to
> focus on preventing problems and not wasting time determining that there
is
> nothing to worry about.
>

Dan,

Advantages of rolling your own:

they do what you want, and only what you want
if your needs change, you can modify them
you don't have to deal with tech support to fix your tools
you have to learn how stuff works to monitor it

Well, that last bullet point seems to be temporary with me, I seem to forget stuff after not being close to it for awhile.

That also serves to point out what a disconnect GUI tools are.

<shameless_self_promotion>

You want some tools? Reserve your copy of "Perl for Oracle DBA's". :)

</shameless_self_promotion>

Jared

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