Re: Guys: Is this worth $1,749 for 8 year Oracle veteran DBA

The right way to start working with Oracle is GUI, which hides some complexity of DB. Then usage should smoothly include/move to "nice user-friendly command-line user interface", which allows greater flexibility, speed, control... whatever pluses there are.

But the point is that OCP's supposed to be measurement for good professional experience which, in my opinion may not include GUI usage, but must include command-line tools. Especially that not every GUI is available for free and is accesible on any site. This point directs to another conclusion - Oracle wants us to buy this GUI staff.

Once again confirm OCP programm is all about Oracle Corp. and it's money and not about us, our employers, client... whatever.

Alexandre
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To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:58 PM

> Hi
>
> That's true. You should at least have the option to use (usable;) GUI
tools.
> Just yesterday, I had a developer (who usually works with SQL Server)
asking
> me
> wether he always has to mess around with this client thing ... *what
client
> thing ?*.
> Actually, he meant the tnsnames.ora. After a short monologue about Oracle
> Names and OID,
> he just popped up some SQL Server GUI stuff, that displayed a catalog of
all
> DB servers,
> all databases, no files to maintain, no nothing, just works.
> So, what does one say then to justify the Oracle way ? Not much.
> Since usability influences decision makers (and younger developers) a lot,
> Oracle might
> loose here with the "You don't know all the command line tool options and
> SQL statements by heart ?
> - You're too stupid to work with Oracle, go ask your local Oracle guru or
> study your $%§ss off and
> get certified."
>
> Regards
>
> Stefan
>
>
>
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