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RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance

From: Kimberly Smith <kimberly.smith_at_gmd.fujitsu.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 09:27:58 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.003993FD.20010926081526@fatcity.com>

You
can use a tool such as ControlIT to connect to NT machines.  Its how I do it, both from the office,
and
from home.  How do all these people who claim you need access to the server room to do the
day to
day stuff provide <SPAN
class=408281415-26092001>remote support?  I will be damned if I come in during the middle of the night for
a
database issue. 

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  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Christopher Spence   [mailto:cspence_at_FuelSpot.com]Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001   5:45 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject:   RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance   

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  style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">This doesn't work for   NT machines, and it with Unix you cannot install 8.1.6 without X   access.
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  style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original   Message-----From: Koivu,
  Lisa [mailto:lisa.koivu_at_efairfield.com] <SPAN   style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:45   AMTo: Multiple recipients of
  list ORACLE-LSubject: RE:
  Physical access to servers for maintenance
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  style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">What's wrong with   telnetting in? 
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  style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt">Steven Lembark   [SMTP:lembark_at_wrkhors.com] <SPAN
  style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:  
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  style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt">Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:20   AM <SPAN
  style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:    
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  style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt">Multiple recipients of list   ORACLE-L <SPAN
  style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:          Re:
  Physical access to servers for maintenance
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  style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-- "Smith, Ron L."
<rlsmith_at_kmg.com>
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  style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Our hardware people are   cracking sown on access to the computer room. <FONT   face=Arial size=2>> They
  have decided the DBA group can do all their work without going   to <SPAN
  style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> the server itself.  This   includes Unix and NT server running both Oracle <FONT   face=Arial size=2>> and
  SQL Server. We would have to use VNC Viewer and PC Anywhere.  I   am <SPAN
  style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> trying to put together a list   of things we might need to do that would <FONT face=Arial   size=2>> make remote
  admin difficult as well as taking longer.  If you have any
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  style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> ideas I would appreciate   it.
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  style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">How about "Your   Work"?
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  style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Last time I looked it's rather   hard to run svrmgrl without access to <FONT face=Arial   size=2>the command
  line.  So long as you don't want to start or stop the
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  style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">database this probably won't have   any effect.
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  style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Checking free disk space is also   simpler with "df".  You can, perhaps, <FONT face=Arial   size=2>memorize the nubmber
  of blocks on every device and compare them to the <FONT   face=Arial size=2>free space
  reported by Oracle each morning.
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  style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Simplest method would be to say   "no we don't need it now, what is the <FONT face=Arial   size=2>pager number of
  someone we can use if we do need things done?"  Make
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  style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">a point of paging them every time   you need something from the shell, <FONT face=Arial   size=2>day or night. 
  That person will, I'm sure, be happy to compile a list <FONT   face=Arial size=2>of the
  trivial things they've been forced to do that the DBA should   have <SPAN
  style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">done for themselves at   3am...
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  style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-- <FONT   face=Arial size=2>Steven
  Lembark                                               
  2930 W. Palmer <SPAN
  style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Workhorse
  Computing                                       
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  style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-- <FONT   face=Arial size=2>Please see
  the official ORACLE-L FAQ: <A href="http://www.orafaq.com"   target=_blank>http://www.orafaq.com <FONT face=Arial   size=2>--
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  style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Author: Steven   Lembark <SPAN
  style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">  INET:   lembark_at_wrkhors.com
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