You
can use a tool such as ControlIT to connect to NT machines. Its how I do
it, both from the office,
and
from home. How do all these people who claim you need access to the server
room to do the
day to
day stuff provide <SPAN
class=408281415-26092001>remote support? I will be damned if I come in
during the middle of the night for
a
database issue.
<FONT face=Tahoma
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[mailto:cspence_at_FuelSpot.com]Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001
5:45 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject:
RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance
<SPAN
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NT machines, and it with Unix you cannot install 8.1.6 without X
access.
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Lisa [mailto:lisa.koivu_at_efairfield.com] <SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:45
AMTo: Multiple recipients of
list ORACLE-LSubject: RE:
Physical access to servers for maintenance
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<SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">What's wrong with
telnetting in?
<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt">-----Original
Message----- <SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:
<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt">Steven Lembark
[SMTP:lembark_at_wrkhors.com] <SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:
<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt">Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:20
AM <SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:
<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt">Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-L <SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:
Re:
Physical access to servers for maintenance
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-- "Smith, Ron L."
<rlsmith_at_kmg.com>
<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> Our hardware people are
cracking sown on access to the computer room. <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> They
have decided the DBA group can do all their work without going
to <SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> the server itself. This
includes Unix and NT server running both Oracle <FONT
face=Arial size=2>> and
SQL Server. We would have to use VNC Viewer and PC Anywhere. I
am <SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> trying to put together a list
of things we might need to do that would <FONT face=Arial
size=2>> make remote
admin difficult as well as taking longer. If you have any
<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">> ideas I would appreciate
it.
<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">How about "Your
Work"?
<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Last time I looked it's rather
hard to run svrmgrl without access to <FONT face=Arial
size=2>the command
line. So long as you don't want to start or stop the
<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">database this probably won't have
any effect.
<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Checking free disk space is also
simpler with "df". You can, perhaps, <FONT face=Arial
size=2>memorize the nubmber
of blocks on every device and compare them to the <FONT
face=Arial size=2>free space
reported by Oracle each morning.
<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Simplest method would be to say
"no we don't need it now, what is the <FONT face=Arial
size=2>pager number of
someone we can use if we do need things done?" Make
<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">a point of paging them every time
you need something from the shell, <FONT face=Arial
size=2>day or night.
That person will, I'm sure, be happy to compile a list <FONT
face=Arial size=2>of the
trivial things they've been forced to do that the DBA should
have <SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">done for themselves at
3am...
<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-- <FONT
face=Arial size=2>Steven
Lembark
2930 W. Palmer <SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Workhorse
Computing
Chicago, IL 60647 <SPAN
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<SPAN
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