From kimberly.smith@gmd.fujitsu.com Wed, 26 Sep 2001 09:27:58 -0700 From: Kimberly Smith Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 09:27:58 -0700 Subject: RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Title: RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance You can use a tool such as ControlIT to connect to NT machines.  Its how I do it, both from the office, and from home.  How do all these people who claim you need access to the server room to do the day to day stuff provide remote support?  I will be damned if I come in during the middle of the night for a database issue.  -----Original Message-----From: Christopher Spence [mailto:cspence@FuelSpot.com]Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 5:45 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance This doesn't work for NT machines, and it with Unix you cannot install 8.1.6 without X access.   "Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes." Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Phone: (978) 322-5744 Fax:    (707) 885-2275 Fuelspot 73 Princeton Street North, Chelmsford 01863   -----Original Message-----From: Koivu, Lisa [mailto:lisa.koivu@efairfield.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:45 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance   What's wrong with telnetting in?  -----Original Message----- From:   Steven Lembark [SMTP:lembark@wrkhors.com] Sent:   Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:20 AM To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:        Re: Physical access to servers for maintenance

  -- "Smith, Ron L." > Our hardware people are cracking sown on access to the computer room. > They have decided the DBA group can do all their work without going to > the server itself.  This includes Unix and NT server running both Oracle > and SQL Server. We would have to use VNC Viewer and PC Anywhere.  I am > trying to put together a list of things we might need to do that would > make remote admin difficult as well as taking longer.  If you have any > ideas I would appreciate it. How about "Your Work"? Last time I looked it's rather hard to run svrmgrl without access to the command line.  So long as you don't want to start or stop the database this probably won't have any effect. Checking free disk space is also simpler with "df".  You can, perhaps, memorize the nubmber of blocks on every device and compare them to the free space reported by Oracle each morning. Simplest method would be to say "no we don't need it now, what is the pager number of someone we can use if we do need things done?"  Make a point of paging them every time you need something from the shell, day or night.  That person will, I'm sure, be happy to compile a list of the trivial things they've been forced to do that the DBA should have done for themselves at 3am... -- Steven Lembark                                               2930 W. Palmer Workhorse Computing                                       Chicago, IL 60647                                                             +1 800 762 1582 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Steven Lembark   INET: lembark@wrkhors.com Fat City Network Services    -- (858) 538-5051  FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California        -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from).  You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).