I
agree, the OS should not crash.<SPAN
class=685330417-17082001>
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>But most of the time I
have seen that in the 5 years I did NT adminstration it was driver related or
patch.
<FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>I have seen times where linux and solaris have had kernel panics, which
is basically the same thing.
"Do not criticize someone until you walked a
mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and
have their shoes."
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<FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Adams, Matthew
(GEA, 088130) [mailto:MATT.ADAMS_at_APPL.GE.COM] Sent: Friday, August
17, 2001 1:48 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: but will it run windows?
I gotta disagree with you on one particular point here.
When an application gets a error and OS crashes, it IS
the OS fault. The OS should be written in such a
way that when an application error occurs, the OS
doesn't have to be rebooted. I believe it IS the
OSes fault.
- Matt Adams - GE Appliances -
matt.adams_at_appl.ge.com Doing linear scans over an
associative array is like trying to club
someone to death with a loaded Uzi. <FONT
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- Larry Wall (creator of Perl)
> -----Original Message----- >
From: Christopher Spence [<A
href="mailto:cspence_at_FuelSpot.com">mailto:cspence_at_FuelSpot.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 1:35 PM <FONT
size=2>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <FONT
size=2>> Subject: RE: but will it run windows? >
> > No I did not say
that. > > What I
am saying, is most people install 100 programs, one of <FONT
size=2>> them acts like > crap and they blame it
on the OS. > > Because
there is 5 million people programming for Win32 and probably 2
> million of them suck, that is not at all the OS's
fault. > > The problem
(in my opinion) stems from there is too many >
people coding for > the os and too many hardware
manufactors putting out code and > hardware.
It > is almost impossible to guarentee
compatability, much less > competent code.
> > There api is fairly open,
it is almost completely published. > Although it is
not open source or anything of that nature. >
> "Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile
in their > shoes, that way <FONT
size=2>> when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their
shoes." > > Christopher
R. Spence > Oracle DBA >
Phone: (978) 322-5744 > Fax:
(707) 885-2275 > >
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> > <FONT
size=2>> > -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 12:33 PM <FONT
size=2>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <FONT
size=2>> > > So
you're saying, unless you run only M$ products it still <FONT
size=2>> sucks. They need > to tighten up
and open up the API's. Then windows would be great. <FONT
size=2>> > --Scott >
> > Christopher Spence
wrote: > > > > I
am much a unix person over M$, but the simple fact is <FONT
size=2>> Win32 serves > > many
purposes. And it crashing all the time is a fairy <FONT
size=2>> tail that unix > > people like to
tell. Yeah, it isn't as stable as unix, and most of <FONT
size=2>> > the problems are related to software and drivers which have
> nothing to > > do
with the OS. > > >
> Christopher R. Spence > > Oracle DBA
> > > <FONT
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Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 11:27 AM > > To:
Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Christopher Spence [<A
href="mailto:cspence_at_FuelSpot.com">mailto:cspence_at_FuelSpot.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:51 AM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-L > > > Subject: RE: but will it run
windows? > > > >
> > I hate windows and all it stands for, but I can't stand
> when people > >
> say it crashes all the time and completely useless. <FONT
size=2>> > > > OK, I stand corrected.
Windows crashes just half of the > time and if it
> > wasn't for Windows, I'd have to explain how
to actually use > a computer <FONT
size=2>> > to a far too big lot of ignorant people. It is also a
marvelous, > > although somewhat overpriced
alternative for the Sony's PS2. > > Hopefully,
the statement above will mitigate your feelings >
toward us, > > the poor Unix geeks that
use unix to provide for our > everyday's bread
> > and Dom Perignon. <FONT
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