Re: computer history stories - Now: Age discrimination?

WOW, now I feel like slacker:)
KK
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 7:51 AM

> Cheers Lee!
>
> Out of curiosity how old did you think I was? I was actually turned down
for
> cigarettes a few months back!! I couldn't believe it!! I'm 22 BTW (only 6
> years above the legal limit!).
>
> Already got Oracle Admin, SQLServer admin, HTML & JAVA programming under
my
> belt - with a little Sybase ASE around the edges and currently moving in
to
> the DB2 world!! Not bad for 4 years of intensive reading a playing..
>
> My next step is to sink my teeth in to UNIX..
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Lee - lerobe
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 12:01
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> After having firstly talking to Mark at length on the phone while
evaluating
> some of his products, I was extremely surprised to see exactly how young
he
> actually was (or at least looked !!)when I met him at the Oracle 9i launch
> at Oracle UK. As for me, a late starter in 1990 on Cobol after dropping
out
> of studying law in 81, to join a band (dad wouldn't speak to me for a
couple
> of months but later became one of our biggest fans !!)and play for about
7-8
> years, reasonably successful but no Gold Disks :-). Went on to use Ingres,
> Unix and C (development and DBA/S.A, then Oracle and Informix(DBA). Now
> purely on Oracle as a DBA and loving every minute of it - Honest.
>
> Big future Mark - best of luck !!
>
> Lee (hobbling his way into the old school - agewise anyway !!)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: 03 August 2001 11:06
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Ahhhhhh 79, I remember those good old days.. Back then I was still
drinking
> milk out of a bottle on a pink sand beach in Bermuda :)
>
> I actually started in the IT industry directly in to software sales on
> Oracle/Sybase tools 4 years ago now - though I did have a hell of a head
> start working with computers due to my "old man" also being in
> software/hardware sales since I can remember - he also started out as a
> computer operator on an IBM 360 mainframe? I actually started my working
> life as an anodiser of all things - an ageing process for aluminium for
> those that don't know, where by you treat the aluminium in vats of
sulphuric
> acid, and caustic soda all heated with electricity running through.. Did
it
> manually too with big rubber gloves, boots and apron! I much prefer
tapping
> my keyboard I can tell ya!
>
> Roll on the new wave of technology! VR here we come! And a great big hand
to
> the "oldies" for making the computer industry what it is now!
>
> Mark (One from the young camp)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Kanagaraj
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:14
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Paul,
>
> I want to echo your sentiment. Now that I am approaching 40 and feeling
> dinosaurish, it is nice to know that a large number of dinosaurs (or
> 'OraSaurus' as Don puts it) still exist.
>
> Btw, I keep hearing of Age discrimination in the IT industry. Reading
> through these notes, is it fair to say that this is less true among DBAs?
>
> As far me, started out in 79 in college with IBM 1620/Fortran and
> punched-card Input/Output trays (used to be able to read Hollerith code
once
> upon a time!). Progressed to Cobol in my first job in 84 and later to
> XENIX/UNIX, and teaching the User *never* to use 'ior i' to 'startup' the
V5
> database...
>
> John Kanagaraj
> Oracle Applications DBA
> DB Soft Inc
> Work : (408) 970 7002
>
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>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Paul Baumgartel [mailto:pbaumgartel_at_mortgagesight.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:35 PM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >Subject: computer history stories
> >
> >
> >I just want to thank everyone whose stories indicate that they
> >are at least
> >middle-aged--for a while (especially at my last job where the
> >average age
> >was about 25), I'd been feeling as though I was the last
> >over-40 tech-head
> >left on the East Coast.
> >
> >Now, as long as I'm posting, my "how-I-got-started" story:
> >
> >I majored in liberal arts and worked as a real-estate property
> >manager for
> >about 5 years. Encouraged by programmer friends, I took some
> >classes, in
> >Fortran, Intro. to Computer Logic, and DG MV/8000 assembly
> >language. My
> >first job, in 1981, was as an assembly language programmer,
> >but not for the
> >MV/8000; rather, writing firmware for the Intel 8085. I
> >couldn't believe
> >how primitive it seemed after programming for the then-state-of-the-art
> >MV/8000. The experience, though, of working from hardware
> >schematics and
> >Intel data books was invaluable. You really know how a
> >computer works when
> >you've learned about asserting ALE (address latch enable) and
> >strobing the
> >address bus!
> >
> >Paul Baumgartel
> >MortgageSight Holdings, LLC
> >pbaumgartel_at_mortgagesight.com
> >
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