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(probably) basic CBO question [message #479042] Thu, 14 October 2010 06:49 Go to next message
chris32680
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Hey guys,
We're working on upgrading our 9i db to 11g, so we built a separate, comparable machine to do our testing on.

We imported our full database and we've been running mostly our larger batch jobs to see what kind of performance change there is.

One large update in particular has me perplexed, and i was hoping maybe you could push me in the right direction for some info.

The first time i ran the update, it took hours. It took so long in fact that i ended up just killing the session so that i could come back to it and check it out.

Well, the next time i ran the update, it only took 10 minutes. And each subsequent time i ran it, it only took ~10 minutes.

I do know that a work table that was populated for the update did get statistics calculated on it AFTER the initial test run...but i ran the delete_table_stats proc against that table to clear the stats to try and reproduce the really bad performance.

I can supply the tracing and explain plan info if neeeded, but my main question is, is there a feature of the cbo that would explain why the first run was so dreadfully slow, but each one after that would be very efficient?

I tried searching through metalink but wasn't able to find anything that answered my question.

Thanks all!

edit: and for clarity, we were/are still running the rules based optimzer on our 9i production box.

[Updated on: Thu, 14 October 2010 07:09]

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Re: (probably) basic CBO question [message #479089 is a reply to message #479042] Thu, 14 October 2010 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yasir Hashmi
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Any DML occuring in the database happens to be done in buffer cache.So the first time you did update,all the blocks are fetched from disk into the buffer cache.This required physical I/O which is expensive than logical I/O.The next time you ran the update,the buffers were found in the cache hence doing logical I/O which is very faster than disk access.
So what you have seen is a normal behavior IMO. As for the update statement,post the explain plan and check for statistics and indexes for columns mentioned in where clause.
Re: (probably) basic CBO question [message #479091 is a reply to message #479089] Thu, 14 October 2010 09:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chris32680
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Thanks Yasir.

That's actually what i was assuming, i just couldn't seem to find any validation of that.

I'll look into it some more and see what i can find out...and post more info if i'm unable to figure it out.
Re: (probably) basic CBO question [message #479148 is a reply to message #479091] Thu, 14 October 2010 14:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chris32680
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could someone possibly explain to me the "time" column in the autotrace info? The time on the update statement says 27+ minutes, but the actual update only took ~9 minutes.

| Id  | Operation                       | Name               | Rows  | Bytes | Cost (%CPU)| Time |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|   0 | UPDATE STATEMENT                |                    |  1040K|    20M|  8336K (13)| 27:47:17 |
|   1 |  UPDATE                         | INVENTORY          |       |       |            | |
|*  2 |   TABLE ACCESS FULL             | INVENTORY          |  1040K|    20M| 10271   (4)| 00:02:04 |
|   3 |   SORT AGGREGATE                |                    |     1 |    32 |            | |
|   4 |    NESTED LOOPS                 |                    |       |       |            | |
|   5 |     NESTED LOOPS                |                    |     1 |    32 |     7   (0)| 00:00:01 |
|   6 |      TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID| EOM_INVENTORY_WORK |     1 |    12 |     4   (0)| 00:00:01 |
|*  7 |       INDEX RANGE SCAN          | IEOM_INV_WORK      |     1 |       |     3   (0)| 00:00:01 |
|*  8 |      INDEX RANGE SCAN           | UI_ITEM_DEMAND     |     1 |       |     2   (0)| 00:00:01 |
|*  9 |     TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID | ITEM_DEMAND        |     1 |    20 |     3   (0)| 00:00:01 |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Thanks again.

EDIT: wait, am i looking at that wrong? does that say 27 hours???

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Re: (probably) basic CBO question [message #479167 is a reply to message #479148] Thu, 14 October 2010 16:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rleishman
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All of the the statistics in AUTOTRACE are estimates, not actuals. The estimate is just wrong.

Ross Leishman
Re: (probably) basic CBO question [message #479239 is a reply to message #479042] Fri, 15 October 2010 08:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
S.Rajaram
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Quote:

edit: and for clarity, we were/are still running the rules based optimzer on our 9i production box.


I hope you are aware that Oracle stopped supporting RBO.

check this link.

http://blogs.oracle.com/optimizer/2010/07/upgrading_from_9i_to_11g_and_the_implicit_migration_from_rbo.html

Regards

Raj
Re: (probably) basic CBO question [message #479243 is a reply to message #479239] Fri, 15 October 2010 09:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chris32680
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S.Rajaram wrote on Fri, 15 October 2010 09:23
Quote:

edit: and for clarity, we were/are still running the rules based optimzer on our 9i production box.


I hope you are aware that Oracle stopped supporting RBO.

check this link.

http://blogs.oracle.com/optimizer/2010/07/upgrading_from_9i_to_11g_and_the_implicit_migration_from_rbo.html

Regards

Raj


yes...which is why we are trying to thoroughly test the cbo so that we can upgrade to 11g without causing major performance problems due to us coding around the rbo for so long.

Thanks for the help all.
Re: (probably) basic CBO question [message #479247 is a reply to message #479243] Fri, 15 October 2010 09:19 Go to previous message
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