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Posted: Apr 14, 2008 7:49 AM 	
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Is anyone else having problems getting to the oracle documentation? I can't access the 10g library from my normal link http://www.oracle.com/pls/db102/homepage , nor can I access 10g or 11g from tahiti.oracle.com or do any searches.

All I get is: We're sorry, the page you requested was not found.
We have recorded this error (404) to help us fix the problem.

*{:-(

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Posted: Apr 14, 2008 7:53 AM   in response to: Boneist in response to: Boneist 	
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Seems that both tahiti and docs have been mis-behaving over the weekend. I had similar problems on Saturday.

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Hmm, seems ok again.

I hope that whatever the problem is that's causing intermittent access is sorted soon!

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Posted: Apr 14, 2008 8:30 AM   in response to: Boneist in response to: Boneist 	
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I'm about to download a copy locally, just in case ...

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Posted: Apr 14, 2008 8:34 AM   in response to: Hans Forbrich in response to: Hans Forbrich 	
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Which is all very well for us, but not when we're pointing people in the direction of the documentation!

"Go to tahiti.oracle.com"
"But it doesn't work... help me now, urgent, etc" </over-generalisation> *{;-)

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Posted: Apr 14, 2008 8:46 AM   in response to: Boneist in response to: Boneist 	
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but allows us to find the doc and tell 'em "when it's available look at ..." <g>

Besides, I use the doc twice as much for myself as I do for others. I just prefer an internet access on the assumption that Oracle occasionally sneaks in an update.

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Posted: Apr 14, 2008 12:17 PM   in response to: Hans Forbrich in response to: Hans Forbrich 	
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I do the same.
Unfortunately, the search against a local documentation copy call the oracle website...
That's really "just in case", because without that feature, it really difficult to find what you want.
Case reported here

Nicolas.

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Posted: Apr 14, 2008 12:27 PM   in response to: N. Gasparotto in response to: N. Gasparotto 	
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Load docs in db and search using Oracle text :)

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yeahh and btw a bit more practical suggestion :) - download and use pdfs, recent versions of acrobat reader are quite smart to search in all files in a directory, I've used this feature quite lot of times, not always in oracle docs though.
Flash stickers are cheap, small and can store lot of info nowadays, also quite usable.

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Posted: Apr 14, 2008 12:39 PM   in response to: gintsp in response to: gintsp 	
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I find pdf less practical and heavy to manage (moreover if you want to share in a local network), and also less friendly, but that's maybe a matter of taste.

Nicolas.

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Posted: Apr 15, 2008 1:36 PM   in response to: N. Gasparotto in response to: N. Gasparotto 	
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I have noticed that various universities seem to have their own copies available, that make decent substitutes when Oracle is unavailable, for example:

http://stanford.edu/dept/itss/docs/oracle/10g/nav/portal_2.htm

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I wouldn't rely on those copies. Will they be kept in sync?
Can I sue the university when the copy isn't accurate?
Don't they constitute a breach of Oracle's copyrights?


Just a few questions.

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>>Will they be kept in sync?
All the problem is here.
The doc provider have to keep in sync their website with the last Oracle documentation built to have the last updates.
Example :
Doc 10gR2 built B14237-01 : limit number of partition => 65535
Doc 10gR2 built B14237-03 : limit number of partition => 1048575
And mistake happens in thread as the following one :
http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=2433129?

Anyway, it can be a temporary workaround.

>>Don't they constitute a breach of Oracle's copyrights?
Awaiting answer from Oracle team with equivalent doc of Peoplesoft for which Oracle doesn't provide HTML server here.

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Posted: Apr 16, 2008 10:18 AM   in response to: Boneist in response to: Boneist 	
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Boneist,
Thanks for reporting this issue. The doc server has been rebooted and http://www.oracle.com/pls/db102/homepage / tahiti.oracle.com should both be functioning now.

Regards,
Lawrence/OTN

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Same issue today.

Nicolas.


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Nicolas,
I just tested both http://www.oracle.com/pls/db102/homepage / tahiti.oracle.com and they appear to be working again.

Regards,
Lawrence/OTN

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Posted: Apr 18, 2008 11:10 AM   in response to: lleung in response to: lleung 	
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Yes, indeed. Thanks,

Nicolas.

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Posted: Apr 21, 2008 6:29 AM   in response to: lleung in response to: lleung 	
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We're seeing problems again today *{:-(

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