Re: WWW/Internet 2009: 2nd CFP until 21 September
From: Bob Badour <bbadour_at_pei.sympatico.ca>
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:47:39 -0300
Message-ID: <4a83d331$0$23745$9a566e8b_at_news.aliant.net>
>>paul c wrote:
>>
>>>Mr. Scott wrote:
>>
>>>>"Bob Badour" <bbad..._at_pei.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:4a82e4c7$0$23778$9a566e8b_at_news.aliant.net...
>>
>>>>>paul c wrote:
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>>>>>>Mr. Scott wrote:
>>>>>>...
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>>>>>>>I'm confused. What requirement are you referring to? Are you
>>>>>>>referring to the requirement that nulls be eliminated or the fact
>>>>>>>that an order isn't an order without a delivery destination? The
>>>>>>>referential cycle was a consequence of trying to eliminate nulls. ...
>>
>>>>>What cycle? And why would anyone care about a referential cycle? It's
>>>>>not like SQL hasn't had deferred checking for a decade or two.
>>
>>>>I think it's misleading to say that Sql has deferred checking. Both
>>>>deferred constraints and subquery in check are optional features of
>>>>the Sql standard. Neither Sql Server or DB2 support either. Oracle
>>>>does support deferred constraint checking but not subqueries in check.
>>>>...
>>
>>>I gather you are no longer talking about sql, but about products.
>>
>>And as I made clear earlier, the specific limitations of whatever shitty
>>implementation of SQL he's using are irrelevant in a theory newsgroup.
>>For fuck sake, both multi-table constraints and deferred checking have
>>been standard for at least 17 fucking years. ::rolls eyes::
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:47:39 -0300
Message-ID: <4a83d331$0$23745$9a566e8b_at_news.aliant.net>
Doctor Duggar wrote:
> On Aug 12, 11:18 pm, Bob Badour <bbad..._at_pei.sympatico.ca> wrote: >
>>paul c wrote:
>>
>>>Mr. Scott wrote:
>>
>>>>"Bob Badour" <bbad..._at_pei.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:4a82e4c7$0$23778$9a566e8b_at_news.aliant.net...
>>
>>>>>paul c wrote:
>>
>>>>>>Mr. Scott wrote:
>>>>>>...
>>
>>>>>>>I'm confused. What requirement are you referring to? Are you
>>>>>>>referring to the requirement that nulls be eliminated or the fact
>>>>>>>that an order isn't an order without a delivery destination? The
>>>>>>>referential cycle was a consequence of trying to eliminate nulls. ...
>>
>>>>>What cycle? And why would anyone care about a referential cycle? It's
>>>>>not like SQL hasn't had deferred checking for a decade or two.
>>
>>>>I think it's misleading to say that Sql has deferred checking. Both
>>>>deferred constraints and subquery in check are optional features of
>>>>the Sql standard. Neither Sql Server or DB2 support either. Oracle
>>>>does support deferred constraint checking but not subqueries in check.
>>>>...
>>
>>>I gather you are no longer talking about sql, but about products.
>>
>>And as I made clear earlier, the specific limitations of whatever shitty
>>implementation of SQL he's using are irrelevant in a theory newsgroup.
>>For fuck sake, both multi-table constraints and deferred checking have
>>been standard for at least 17 fucking years. ::rolls eyes::
> > Yeah, it's like incessantly whining about there being problems > with modern "Mathematics" because his solar powered calculator > doesn't support symbolic integration.
No, it's much more like whining that his solar powered calculator doesn't support square roots. Received on Thu Aug 13 2009 - 10:47:39 CEST