Jan, please reply
From: Bob Badour <bbadour_at_pei.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:24:20 -0300
Message-ID: <4a33c4aa$0$23776$9a566e8b_at_news.aliant.net>
Bob Badour wrote:
>> On Jun 9, 3:27 pm, Bernard Peek <b..._at_shrdlu.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In message
>>> <61940522-4566-4b27-be4f-ad8afcbf8..._at_o18g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
>>> cim..._at_hotmail.com writes
>>>
>>>> Snipped
>>>
>>>>> The database community can handle this in a couple of ways:
>>>
>>>>> 1) Close in on yourself and mock people who do not have the
>>>>> insights you have.
>>>>> 2) Recognize the problem and help sort out the misunderstandings
>>>>> and snags.
>>>
>>>>> Over the past couple of days I have got a clear impression about
>>>>> what approach seems to be preferred by the regulars here.
>>>>
>>>> Let me get this straight. You need help from the database community
>>>> for a design exercice but you need that help to be done according to
>>>> the principles you believe are universal (whatever these may be). All
>>>> I have seen so far are goodwill people who wanted to help you by
>>>> advising you to do some reading necessary to understand some basic
>>>> principles of database design. In a word, you ask a question and
>>>> because you don't like the answer you now imply that the *regulars*
>>>> have closed themselves and mocked you.
>>>
>>>> Don't you think this is a hasty harsh judgment on your part ?
>>>
>>> I've been reading and posting to this newsgroup on and off for years. I
>>> think his analysis is pretty accurate.
>>
>> Unfortunately it is.
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:24:20 -0300
Message-ID: <4a33c4aa$0$23776$9a566e8b_at_news.aliant.net>
Bob Badour wrote:
> Jan Hidders wrote: >
>> On Jun 9, 3:27 pm, Bernard Peek <b..._at_shrdlu.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In message
>>> <61940522-4566-4b27-be4f-ad8afcbf8..._at_o18g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
>>> cim..._at_hotmail.com writes
>>>
>>>> Snipped
>>>
>>>>> The database community can handle this in a couple of ways:
>>>
>>>>> 1) Close in on yourself and mock people who do not have the
>>>>> insights you have.
>>>>> 2) Recognize the problem and help sort out the misunderstandings
>>>>> and snags.
>>>
>>>>> Over the past couple of days I have got a clear impression about
>>>>> what approach seems to be preferred by the regulars here.
>>>>
>>>> Let me get this straight. You need help from the database community
>>>> for a design exercice but you need that help to be done according to
>>>> the principles you believe are universal (whatever these may be). All
>>>> I have seen so far are goodwill people who wanted to help you by
>>>> advising you to do some reading necessary to understand some basic
>>>> principles of database design. In a word, you ask a question and
>>>> because you don't like the answer you now imply that the *regulars*
>>>> have closed themselves and mocked you.
>>>
>>>> Don't you think this is a hasty harsh judgment on your part ?
>>>
>>> I've been reading and posting to this newsgroup on and off for years. I
>>> think his analysis is pretty accurate.
>>
>> Unfortunately it is.
> > Hi Jan! Long time no see. > > What do you recognize as the OP's problem? What would you say to sort out the misunderstandings and snags?
Jan, I appreciate you are very busy and no longer have time for c.d.t. Ordinarily, I would not ask for any of your time.
When you snipe like this, does it not at least border on hypocrisy? Are you not creating the very thing you chimed in to agree exists?
Do you really think it helps anyone to encourage someone to ignore what help is given while offering no other help? Is that not what you did?
I would really like to know what you think would sort out the misunderstandings and snags. I am sure you have something of value to contribute. Received on Sat Jun 13 2009 - 17:24:20 CEST