Re: pro- foreign key propaganda?
From: Brian Selzer <brian_at_selzer-software.com>
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 08:10:48 -0400
Message-ID: <GGc_j.558$Ri.2_at_flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com>
>> "paul c" <toledoby..._at_ac.ooyah> wrote in message
>>
>> news:iv4_j.162104$rd2.7529_at_pd7urf3no...
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>> > Brian Selzer wrote:
>> >> "paul c" <toledoby..._at_ac.ooyah> wrote in message
>> >>news:hS1_j.163913$Cj7.63718_at_pd7urf2no...
>> >>> Brian Selzer wrote:
>> >>> ... And by the way, I suggest you read Codd's book.
>> >>>> Pages 89-90 describe the Update operator and the justification for
>> >>>> it.
>> >>>> ...
>>
>> >>>> I could cite other instances, but I think these sufficiently show
>> >>>> that
>> >>>> you're interpretation of Codd's use of the word 'update' is faulty.
>> >>>> ...
>>
>> >>> That is a rather legalistic opinion of an informal, conversational
>> >>> sentence. Clearly, he is talking about an operator, not just a word.
>> >>> That aside, his intentions on this topic have often perplexed me.
>>
>> >> Unless and until you agree that
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>> >> (1) a database value is a snapshot of the micro-world that the
>> >> database
>> >> is supposed to model,
>> > ...
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>> > bs, so is the rest. a modern digital camera would do better than a
>> > digital computer ever could.
>>
>> Are you really that thick, or are you just having fun at my expense? I'm
>> not really in the mood to be the butt of your little joke.
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 08:10:48 -0400
Message-ID: <GGc_j.558$Ri.2_at_flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com>
"Marshall" <marshall.spight_at_gmail.com> wrote in message news:9fa22d9c-ff31-428d-a09b-3dc08e168b0a_at_t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On May 24, 9:58 pm, "Brian Selzer" <br..._at_selzer-software.com> wrote:
>> "paul c" <toledoby..._at_ac.ooyah> wrote in message
>>
>> news:iv4_j.162104$rd2.7529_at_pd7urf3no...
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>> > Brian Selzer wrote:
>> >> "paul c" <toledoby..._at_ac.ooyah> wrote in message
>> >>news:hS1_j.163913$Cj7.63718_at_pd7urf2no...
>> >>> Brian Selzer wrote:
>> >>> ... And by the way, I suggest you read Codd's book.
>> >>>> Pages 89-90 describe the Update operator and the justification for
>> >>>> it.
>> >>>> ...
>>
>> >>>> I could cite other instances, but I think these sufficiently show
>> >>>> that
>> >>>> you're interpretation of Codd's use of the word 'update' is faulty.
>> >>>> ...
>>
>> >>> That is a rather legalistic opinion of an informal, conversational
>> >>> sentence. Clearly, he is talking about an operator, not just a word.
>> >>> That aside, his intentions on this topic have often perplexed me.
>>
>> >> Unless and until you agree that
>>
>> >> (1) a database value is a snapshot of the micro-world that the
>> >> database
>> >> is supposed to model,
>> > ...
>>
>> > bs, so is the rest. a modern digital camera would do better than a
>> > digital computer ever could.
>>
>> Are you really that thick, or are you just having fun at my expense? I'm
>> not really in the mood to be the butt of your little joke.
> > Brian, > > Surely you must be aware by now that your position with regard > to identity is a minority opinion, yes? I mean, regardless of > whether it is right or wrong, you do know it's not a widely > held view. (At least here in c.d.t. I imagine you'd get a different > reception from a different crowd.) Right? > > > Marshall
I'm aware of it, but I don't understand it: my dog is still my dog regardless of whether he is dry or wet or covered in mud. The majority opinion just doesn't make sense. But then, a majority once held that the world was flat, so there's still a glimmer of hope :-) Received on Sun May 25 2008 - 14:10:48 CEST