Re: Little design mistakes that can be easily avoided (2): Listenning to CELKO (and CELKO alikes)

Bob Badour <bbadour_at_pei.sympatico.ca> wrote:

>Matthias Klaey wrote:
>> Cimode <cimode_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Chapter 2 of the little things that can be done at little cost to
>>>avoid misconceptions about RM design.
>>>
>>>Lately, I opened a thread that gave opportunity for CELKO to post the
>>>exact essence of what should *not* be done in design: let
>>>subjectiveness regulate design instead of logic. I take the
>>>opportunity of his thread to point out how and why it is wiser to
>>>ignore such ideas to build better databases. For that I will take all
>>>the posted comments and try to make sense out of them.
>>>
>>>Regard...
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Hmm. Is this just the usual Celko-bashing in this newsgroup? Did you
>> intend to write a parody on how to misread and misinterpert other
>> peoples texts? You don't mean this seriously, do you?
>
>Celko is an idiot who need debunking everywhere. You seem to object to
>debunking idiots.

"Celko is an idiot who need debunking everywhere": This is *your opinion* about Celko. I happen to disagree with you (end of *this* discussion from my part).

"You seem to object to debunking idiots.": This is called jumping to conclusions, or inadmissible generalization. When I say that "X is not an idiot who needs debunking", you cannot conclude that I say "no idiot needs debunking".

However, I do object to so-called debunking that consists of nothing more than badly disguised slandering, see my answer to Cimode.

I listen to you when you say something factual, and I also listen to Celko. I don't see a such big difference between the two of you. Mostly it concerns the difference between theory and practice, or the difference between how the world should be (Badour), and how the world is (Celko).

Greetings
Matthias Kläy

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