Re: 1 NF

On Mar 4, 6:58 pm, Gene Wirchenko <g..._at_ocis.net> wrote:
> "dawn" <dawnwolth..._at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 2, 11:07 pm, Gene Wirchenko <g..._at_ocis.net> wrote:
> >> "JOG" <j..._at_cs.nott.ac.uk> wrote:
> >> >In fact don't worry about answering any of that. No more for me.
>
> >> Thank you. I had decided that I had had enough of your posts
> >> enabling Dawn the Twit. If the above had not been your next post, I
> >> would have plonked you. Dawn does not learn and really, I do not
> >> think she wants to.
>
> The beauty of a killfile that marks messages as read instead of
> deleting them is that I can read the messages if I choose.
>
> >Some of you guys are downright cruel. Is this really who you want to
> >be, Gene? I have enough to study now, so I'll leave again. Like
>
> No, I want to be a participant in a functional (not
> dysfunctional) newsgroup. It sometimes takes some policing, and I
> understand that it can be necessary to be "cruel".

My daughters are both intelligent and beautiful, but I taught them that it is far more important to be kind. Did you forget what your parents or caretakers taught you when growing up, or did they teach that it was OK to be cruel? I'm sorry you don't like my questions or responses, Gene. I wish I knew how to both discuss such topics and make everyone happy with me, but your response here makes me more determined not to give up. It is important not to let the bullies win. Although I was ready to go back to a research mode, I'm posting again because of your response here and will now check in occasionally even if less frequently. Bullies are likely to think that it is justified to be cruel if they really are able to get the playground to themselves.

> I am glad you are
> going. Please stay away longer this time. Better yet, do not come
> back.

Perhaps if you and others learn how to be kind, I will not feel that leaving would let the bully behavior rule.

> >everyone, I prefer to be loved. Sorry if I have in some way harmed
> >you as you have me. Unlike you, if I have hurt anyone here, it was
>
> You have done little but in the context of this newsgroup.
>
> >definitely unintentional. --dawn
>
> Incompetence not malice?

Yes. If this ng is only for those who think like you, ask the questions you care about, and have no areas in which they are ignorant, then I surely do not belong here. I've frustrated jog and mAsterdam, among others, with my questions about navigation, which really frustrates me since I do not wish to. I am simply trying to understand, which includes rendering opinions so that others know what you are thinking and can offer their related insights. I suspect there are tens of thousands of developers who think more like I do on many of these topics, and it my approach seems to be gaining (perhaps only my perspective). I heard, but cannot verify, that Caché is now the fastest growing dbms, but do not know by what criteria. (I'm evaluating it for a large development effort right now.) So, if it really is a good idea to restrict developers to using only the RM for their databases, it likely doesn't hurt to learn how to discuss these topics with "the likes of me."

I try not to upset, frustrate, or anger folks, and I honestly try not to be stupid (although I sometimes am). I think my questions and comments are legitimate. My world is bigger than the RM and my terminology needs to handle that and still commuicate here, something I have not yet mastered.

Meg Tilly was on the Craig Ferguson Late Late Show last week and she said something about how you know you are doing well in poker when the men get mean and nasty to you. If they are nice to you, you are likely losing. This is the first place I've had a group of men really seem to hate me and want me to go away, so her comments triggered a light bulb for me. Perhaps some think of this as a competition instead of a dialog? Cheers! --dawn

>> Welcome back to the Light.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Gene Wirchenko
>
> Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation:
> I have preferences.
> You have biases.
> He/She has prejudices.
Received on Tue Mar 06 2007 - 02:37:16 CET