Re: Did Joe Celko say this ? "Worse than MySQL: Just Ms Access"

From: Bob Badour <bbadour_at_pei.sympatico.ca>
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:38:17 GMT
Message-ID: <Zztzh.5032$R71.74003@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>

Eric wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 01:21:08 GMT, "mountain man"
> <hobbit_at_southern_seaweed.com.op> wrote:
>

>>"Bob Badour" <bbadour_at_pei.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>"our industry"
>>> "NOT what our industry needs
>>
>>The possessiveness is cute, but entirely misdirected.
>>What *does* the industry need? Obviously more calumny.

Calumny requires the statement be false unlike my statements about Joe.

>>Joe's attitude: "solutions: nothing is impossible using SQL".

Correction, Joe's attitude: "Hey! Look at me!"

If his nonsense weren't so damaging to our industry, one could disregard Joe as merely pathetic.

> It has been claimed that you can write anything in anything, but a lot
> of the time it's a bad idea. Using an inappropriate tool or stretching
> an almost-appropriate tool beyond its boundaries will lead to
> solutions that are at best fragile and at worst just plain wrong.

We have popsicle sticks. We can do anything!

>>Bob's attitude: "throw enough shit and some of it has to start sticking".

>
> Well, no - it's just that when he sees something wrong or misguided or
> unclear or illogical or just plain stupid he says so. He might be
> wrong himself of course, but that is not the point. Just tell him,
> calmly and logically, why he is wrong, remembering that you are trying
> to convince the rest of us (lurkers included), not just him.

Eric, you have to keep in mind that mountain man is another self-aggrandizing ignorant. He is as ignorant and stupid as Joe, but he lacks Joe's success at self-promotion.

>>F**k-Off Bob. No industry or person needs the calumny you deliver.

>
> and that, of course, is not a personal attack in any way at all...

And ironically, his statement has the requisite falsity for calumny. Received on Sat Feb 10 2007 - 18:38:17 CST