Re: What databases have taught me
From: AndrewMcDonagh <newsamd_at_amc.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:39:38 +0100
Message-ID: <e93j6l$cmv$1_at_news.freedom2surf.net>
>
> I have been aware of topmind for many years. While I don't always agree
> with him, he exhibits none of the psychosis common among cranks. Bruno,
> you, on the other hand, quickly and easily made it into my twit-filter.
>
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:39:38 +0100
Message-ID: <e93j6l$cmv$1_at_news.freedom2surf.net>
Bob Badour wrote:
> topmind wrote:
>
>> Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: >> >>> Bob Badour wrote: >>> >>>> topmind wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Tony D wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> topmind wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Tony D wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> without resorting to stuffing >>>>>>>> some more-or-less random test cases through it as some kind of >>>>>>>> demonstration that it kind-of, maybe, perhaps does what we want >>>>>>>> it to, >>>>>>>> for these semi-random test cases at least ?" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have kicked around approaches to measure the code impact of >>>>>>> various >>>>>>> change scenarios. The problem is that people also perceive change >>>>>>> differently, I've found out, such that they would assign different >>>>>>> frequency estimates, which were required to get a total score. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Exactly. You've "kicked around approaches to measure the code >>>>>> impact of >>>>>> various change scenarios". But without being able to formally reason >>>>>> about behaviour in the abstract, before a piece of code is even >>>>>> written, you're fighting a losing battle, making more-or-less >>>>>> educated >>>>>> guesses. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Again, it is not clear to me what you are proposing. Formal proving is >>>>> not a common industry practice. >>>> >>>> >>>> And your point would be? You seem to be trying to make a claim about >>>> computing science, but you measure that by the properties of industry >>>> practice. Given that many of us think the state of the industry is >>>> appalling and characterized mostly by ignorance, misconception and >>>> anti-intellectualism, you won't convince many of us with that sort of >>>> non sequitur. >>> >>> Bob, >>> >>> "topmind" is our pet crank here on comp.object.
>
> I have been aware of topmind for many years. While I don't always agree
> with him, he exhibits none of the psychosis common among cranks. Bruno,
> you, on the other hand, quickly and easily made it into my twit-filter.
>
Bruno - that'll be because Bob doesn't agree with you. And those that Bob doesn't agree with - he filters.
its quite a brilliant of deferred learning on his part. Received on Wed Jul 12 2006 - 21:39:38 CEST