Re: The word "symbol"
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 00:33:02 +0200
Message-ID: <4301180b$0$11063$e4fe514c_at_news.xs4all.nl>
VC wrote:
> mAsterdam wrote:
>>VC wrote: >>>mAsterdam wrote: >>>>vc wrote:
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>>>>>When we confine ourselves to the realm of formal structures of which >>>>>database theory is an example, ... >>>> >>>>Ah! This creates perspective. I do not share this opinion. >>>>To me there is a part of database theory that deals with formal >>>>structures. >>> >>>What's that supposed to mean ? >> >>Your interest in databases is in the purely formal aspects, no? >>That is one, but not my main area of nice topics in database theory. >>Is that so difficult?
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> So you claim that, say, the relational model is only partially formal.
"So" would summarize _your_ factgathering and reasoning, right?
> What are the other "nice topics" in the RM which are not formal ?
You are suggesting RM is synonymous to
database theory. If it is to you - ok with me - don't
bother to read my stuff, my contributions only rarely
touch RM.
To restate what I thought was already clear: to me they are not synonyms. Emaple: one pet topic of mine is 'dirty data': how to make sure a database contains reliable data. Formally this problem can simply be excluded by way of the closed world assumption. Is the topic therefore outside the realm of database theory? No. Just - at least partly - outside the realm of the formal aspects.
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>>>>Semiotics is not applied to the study of formal systems >>>>per se but it does give handles to provide content, >>>>context, meaning and use of formal systems. >>> >>>For example ? >> >>Why? Any example would by definiton be >>outside what you choose to be database theory.
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> Forget about my definitions (although they are not really mine but rather
> commonly accepted).
Beyond my (as yet non-confirmed or rejected) assertion
"Your interest in databases is in the purely formal
aspects", which commonly accepted definition
are you talking about?
Please be somewhat specific.
> I am curious how semiotics "gives handles to provide content" for the RM ?
> Always eager to learn from my betters, please oblige.
There was no midi file attached to your post. Yet I don't like it's tone. That's a pity because I did like some of your other posts. Received on Tue Aug 16 2005 - 00:33:02 CEST