Re: Andrew Tanenbaum AP story

Gene Wirchenko <genew_at_mail.ocis.net> wrote in message news:<trtgo01dim6nif8bahosu0i98bfpb91nst_at_4ax.com>...
> Kenneth Downs <firstinit.lastname_at_lastnameplusfam.net> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >...and yet the use of this "obsolete" design continues to grow faster than
> >any other system out there, including BSD.
> >
> >The standard rebuttal to the "obsolete" or "inferior" argument is that the
> >definitions are too narrow.
>
> I like this pithy sig:
>
> legacy (adj) - A pejorative term used in the computer industry meaning
> "it works."
>
> >Looking at the entire picture, something cannot be "superior" if it is
> >encumbered by personalities, licensing, barriers to entry, or other items
> >not directly tied to the pure technical matters. The argument is that the
> >technology cannot be separated from its culture. If cannot break out of
> >its own culture, it is just plain not superior to anything. It is at best
> >a pet project.
>
> I remember the whining of the OS/2 aficionados. OS/2 was
> technically superior to MS-DOS, etc., etc. What they missed was that
> MS-DOS was good enough,

if i remember my history correctly, the ascendence of DOS was not that it was good enough. rather, Lotus could only afford to build 1-2-3 (a wholly assembler program for its first 3(?) releases) for one platform
and chose DOS. it was the killer app that made DOS. IBM sold the PC with the user's choice: CP/M-86, UCSD-P system, or PC-DOS. if you wanted 1-2-3, you didn't have a choice. then, M$ was allowed to make and enforce restrictive contracts such that clones couldn't (in reality) be
sold with anything else.

users never really made the decision. manufacturers did.

and many had compensated for its weaknesses
> with various add-ons.
>
> I expect this story has many versions with different players.
>
> >So compare Linus to RMS and you see that the HURD kernel loses to Linux on
> >personality. Compare Linux to BSD and you have one main tree compared to
> >three (more?), and so the new hacker is led to the simpler case.
> >
> >Comparing the HURD to the monolithic Linux kernel is an easy thing to do.
> >For almost ten years the question was, "Do you want the 'inferior' kernel I
> >can install today or the 'superior' one that does not exist?"
>
> The latter, of course, but what I can get is another story! <BEG>
>
> >The combination of licensing, personality, and the pure simplicity of the
> >monolithic design gave Linux the early lead and now its got the momentum.
> >It will be rendered obsolete when somebody beats that combination.
> >
> >This does not mean Linux is "better" than BSD any more than it means that
> >Linux is obsolete. Hopefully it is just meant to show that such terms have
> >little meaning.
> >
> >There is more to good technology than good technology, no?
>
> Thee is more to getting to use good technology than just the good
> technology.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Gene Wirchenko
>
> Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation:
> I have preferences.
> You have biases.
> He/She has prejudices.
Received on Wed Nov 03 2004 - 18:41:08 CET