Re: A Normalization Question

"Neo" <neo55592_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4b45d3ad.0407061739.57ff6b12_at_posting.google.com...
> > ...the whole purpose of normalization is to determine which things
> > relate to which other things.
>
> This is an incorrect understanding of normalization.
>
> > You are overgeneralizing to the nth degree.
>
> No, you/RM are undergeneralizing to the 5th degree.
>
> > In normalization, one does not consider the values of the attributes...
>
> The general form of normalization applies to all data models. Because
> RM is a limited data model, it is either impossible or impractical to
> normalize some types of data (ie values of attributes) while other
> data models (ie TDM) can.
>
> > > If one chooses to ignore some things (ie 'brown', 'brown', 'brown'),
> > > then one has a limited understanding/implementation of normalization.
> >
> > Please read SOMETHING about functional dependencies
> > before you post this nonsense again.
>
> RM incorrectly senses that 'brown', 'brown', 'brown' are not redunant,
> no matter how many times one rereads it, because it is a limited data
> model.
>
> > We are talking about relational databases.
>
> I am talking about representing things in general
> and RM is only one limited method of doing so.
>
> > Strings don't have attributes except ...
>
> Sure they can as I have demonstrated earlier. It is not upto a data
> model to decide which data is "part of the data dictionary" or "in the
> normal business world". If it does, the data model is limited.
>
> > _Entities_ have attributes.
> > "Brown" is not an entity.
>
> Because 'brown' can have attributes (ie language, typeset, font, size,
> color, blinking, etc) it can by your definition be an entity.
>
> > Your view of this entire topic is completely twisted.
>
> No, your/RM's view of this entire topic is completely limited.

Well, I give up. Several people here have demonstrated time and again and in several ways that you are not entirely correct. I will no longer waste my time. Received on Wed Jul 07 2004 - 08:25:56 CDT