Re: database systems and organizational intelligence
Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 16:58:05 GMT
Message-ID: <40b8b6fc.5004806_at_news-read3.maxwell.syr.edu>
On Fri, 28 May 2004 12:50:36 -0500, "Dawn M. Wolthuis" <dwolt_at_tincat-group.com> wrote:
>> is an object graph - what Java specifically lacks is some declarative way
>of
>> relating objects.
>
>xml is the best bet for that, perhaps?
No, XML are only guidelines for physical formats.
The best way of relating objects are relations.
>> I like Tutorial D, although it's a bit wordy.
>
>It makes a good tutorial for relational thinking, but it definitely doesn't
>roll off my fingertips -- it's just too, too, what's the word?
Good :-)
>I'm interested in similar goals, but I think the declarative language for
>the DBMS being so disjoint from application logic has been significant cost
>to our industry
Then lets improve the application programming languages.
>, and my take is to move things out of the DBMS
The worst thing we can do.
>accessible to the whole system, while others are working to build more into
>the DBMS (especially those who make money selling proprietary DBMS's).
The others are trying to progress and you are trying to regress.
>Maybe if we had a common xml schema for specifying data constraints, along
>with common services for applying such, ...
We already have something a lot better.
Regards
Alfredo
Received on Sat May 29 2004 - 18:58:05 CEST