Re: Entity data spread over multiple tables

From: Bob Badour <bbadour_at_golden.net>
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 17:29:54 -0500
Message-ID: <sJednRe28rgQUoPdRVn-tA_at_golden.net>


Hi Parker,

I can't point at me to show you my name or my ID either. Heck, I don't even have rings for you to cut me in half and count to calculate my age.

Regards

"Parker Shannon" <pshannon_at_ixpres.com> wrote in message news:401ed196_1_at_news.vic.com...
> Hello John,
>
> The "Participants" table is called Person. A Person has many Locations.
A
> Person has many Locations and one Location may have many Persons.
>
> The relation that resolves this many-to-many is called the PersonLocation.
> Person, Location and PersonLocation are all classes.
>
> tblPerson
> Id AutoIncrement, Unique
> Name Text
> FirstName Text
> MiddleInitial Text
> LastName Text
> etc. ........
>
> tblLocation
> Id AutoIncrement, Unique
> StreetAddress Text
> City Text
> State Text
> ZipCode Text
> etc. .......
>
> PersonLocation
> PersonId
> LocationId
> Floor Text
> SuiteNumber Text
> PhoneNumber Text
> FAXNumber Text
> etc. ........
>
> Note: All "pieces of a Participants identity" belong in the Person table.
> Not all over the place. These are called attributes, which are physical
> characteristics of a Person. This is one reason address attributes belong
> in Location. Address attributes are not physical characteristics of a
> Person. You can't point to yourself and show me "your city".
>
> Regards . . .
>
> "John O'Conner" <jsoconner_at_earthlink.nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:2GMQb.26802$zj7.13126_at_newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > In my Little League db, PARTICIPANTS have 0, 1, 2, or 3 different PHONE
> > numbers. I've modeled this by creating a separate PHONE table containing
> > a number, phone type, and participant id.
> >
> > Is this the typical design for attaching 0 or more of the same attribute
> > to an entity? I see the benefit being that no PHONE columns are used
> > when a PARTICIPANT doesn't have one...with the downside that PHONE is a
> > separate table, and I have to access a second table to collect all info
> > for a single PARTICIPANT. Actually, I have several different tables with
> > pieces of a PARTICIPANTS identity. Placing data about a single entity in
> > other tables must be a known, common situation with anthing but trivial
> > databases, right?
> >
> > This rubs me a little funny because I would model this differently in a
> > programming language like Java. I would probably make PHONE an array
> > within PARTICIPANT classes. The array could contain 0 or more actual
> > PHONE instances. The PHONE info is right there with the PARTICIPANT
> > object in the programming language...however, my db model is quite
> > different. Bothersome....do other people hit this type of modeling
> > problem often? Is this a common db design pattern?
> >
> > Regards,
> > John O'Conner
>
>
Received on Mon Feb 02 2004 - 23:29:54 CET

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