Re: Database-valued attributes?
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:06:07 -0000
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"Bob Badour" <bbadour_at_golden.net> wrote in message
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> "Paul Vernon" <paul.vernon_at_ukk.ibmm.comm> wrote in message
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> > > > > > poss rep with more than 1 component a tuple of those components,
> or
> > a
> > > > > list, a set, an array or just 'a thing with components'?
> > > > >
> > > > > It is a possible representation. The remainder is internal.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Can't say I'm happy with such dereliction of definition though. I'd
> like
> > > to
> > > > see the logical model cover such matters rather than leaving it to
be
> an
> > > > 'internal' matter. Oh well.
> > >
> > > Physical independence is not a dereliction.
> >
> > One of us in the group said
> >
> > "I doubt Dijkstra would consider a division between applications and
data
> > management appropriate. I know he expressed skepticism regarding the
> > division into conceptual, logical and physical."
> >
> > Has anyone got the quote? I think I share some of his skepticism...
>
> As I recall, it was in one of his trip reports, but I could not find
> anything by searching so I assume that one has not been transcribed yet.
Maybe the above was inspired by his comments in 1976 on "Database Technology" in this trip report
http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/ewd05xx/EWD577.PDF
Regards
Paul Vernon
Business Intelligence, IBM Global Services
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