Re: Transactions: good or bad?

On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 10:42:19 -0700, Todd Bandrowsky wrote:

>> 	Meaning?

        Pointers? This is not clear yet.

        Anyway I think you are confusing transactions with data models. Don't.

        And the state-of-the-art is not transactions, but database assignment. So don't loose your time beating a dead horse.

>> 	Well, you can't say something is Mathematics because it has to
>> do with a the plus, minus and division signs... so you have to find a
>> better basis to call your language, whatever it is, relational.

        Your are messing relational with SQL. SQL is not relational, and has never been. Relational were QUEL, BS12, and now are Opus, Duro, Dataphor and perhaps LEAP.

> Secondly, I think the mathematics is a language
> for expressing formal ideas, but, it is only one of many languages,
> and that, an idea expressed in software is every bit as formal as any
> mathematical proof, if, test cases exist for all the cases of that
> software.

        You are messing testing with proving. Test cases aren't formal proofs. I hope I don't have to use software coded by you for reliability.

> For most customers, the concept "relational" implies that the result
> of an expression can be operated on as if it were one of the
> components of that expression. That is, WHERE works on a SELECT of a
> table as well as it does on a SELECT of a SELECT. For the domain that
> my language exists, I have this characteristic.

        Most customers don't understand what relational is all about. Most customers can't define what's relational any more than they can define what Mathematics is.

> I think relational database servers are a dead end, and domain
> specific languages are the way to go. It was an elegant theory, but

        So why the effort of misbranding your wares?

> business needs have moved beyond simple the aggregation and
> combination of regular structures. Since most DBAs tend to suck

        You could be clearer, but since you are confusing relational with SQL it probably doesn't matter anyway.

> In short, domain specific languages are better for businesses, better
> for DBAs, and certainly better for me. If you or anyone else would
> like to explore what I have to offer, please give me a shout at
> tbandrow_at_unitedsoftworks.com.

        Spammer.

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