Re: Comparison of DB2 and Oracle?

Jean-David Beyer <jdbeyer_at_exit109.com> wrote in message news:<10nvljud6hsat7f_at_corp.supernews.com>...
> michael newport wrote:
> >>Well, you need to get more experience with new stuff. Doing the same
> >>thing over in a different environment should give you an increased
> >>appreciation of what you are doing, and what you could be doing.
> >
> >
> > It did, and the similarities were all too obvious.
> >
> >
> >>>>That's not the fault of the product. That direct and proximate
> >>>>responsibility falls on you for being a dinosaur. How much code have
> >>>>you implemented with bulk binding? How much with the model clause?
> >>>>How much with analytic functions? How many materialized views with
> >>>>refresh logs?
> >>>
> >>>its answers the users needs.
> >>>and it was written by the dealine.
> >>>which meant my company got paid.
> >>>although some of this money was then sent to Oracle to pay for the
> >>>licence.
> >>>if we had used Ingres we could have done the same job for less, or
> >>>increased our profits.
> >>
> >>I used to work for a vendor of a product that worked on multiple
> >>databases, including Ingres. They dropped Ingres support due to lack
> >>of interest from potential customers. Are you sure whoever paid your
> >>company would have been interested with Ingres? Many products are
> >>considered more desireable simply because they are more expensive.
> >>Stupid, true, but the way of the world.
> >
> >
> > I agree that CA sales and marketing were bad. But Ingres the product is not.
> > CA also wasted time and money on speculative products like Jasmine and Opal.
> > Linux / Apache / PHP have taken off because they are reliable and OpenSource.
> > I predict the same for Ingres.
> >
> I would be curious what the advantages of Ingres might be over other free
> (depending on exact usage) dbms's such as postgreSQL and MySQL. I know
> that Ingres has been around since even before Oracle existed (late
> 1970s?). I suppose postgreSQL is a descendant of Ingres.
>
> For desktop use, it probably matters little, though after fussing around
> with a bunch of them, I chose to pay IBM for their DB2 UDB because it just
> plain worked better and they seemed to follow standards (such as for
> Embedded SQL) better than did Informix or postgreSQL did at the time I
> tried them (mid to late 1990s).

Open Source is good, and not just Ingres. But I used Ingres for a long time, and I know it works. Oracle also works but costs a lot of money.

I also read that IBM and Sybase appear to be going opensource. Received on Thu Oct 28 2004 - 21:36:37 CEST