Re: Informix/Oracle comparison on Data Storage terminology

On Wed, 04 Dec 2002 07:01:41 GMT, Jonathan Leffler <jleffler_at_earthlink.net> wrote:

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>> I don't think that onmonitor is perfect. Our experience of how to
>> manage Informix systems has grown since the days of Turbo, but the
>> onmonitor displays have not. I would like to see Informix commit to
>> extending onmonitor by putting in some really useful status
>> displays such as the table access profiles, user usage profiles,
>> and accurate info on log log usage.
>
>Unlikely to happen. It is perpetually slated for removal,
>periodically removed from beta versions, and reinstated in time for
>GA. However, ON-Monitor is fundamentally not a happy program; it is
>an I4GL application that happens to connect direct to the system
>shared memory -- ick!
>
>> We could even write in in 4Js so that is was then available as
>> character - very close to the machine, GUI over a windows network,
>> and web - and guess what -- we wouldn't even need to change the
>> source. But maybe that idea is too novel:-)
>
>The source code would have to be changed drastically. It is an odd
>mixture of I4GL and plain old C code. The I4GL bit could be
>recompiled easily enough, but the C code is not about to be released;
>far too much proprietary data about the structures in the shared
>memory etc. If anything like this was to occur, ON-Monitor would have
>to be rewritten to use the other ON-* utilities to do the real work,
>and just leave ON-Monitor to interpret the output. Of course, reading
>files and handling strings for parsing the output from onstat,
>oncheck, onspaces, etc is not I4GL's strongest point.
>

Would it be possible for IBM to do the compiles and then send a graphical onmonitor as part of the "DBA Toolset"? That way no C code would be sent to the customer . . .

>I don't think that this is likely to occur, unfortunately.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jonathan Leffler [mailto:jleffler_at_earthlink.net]
>> Sent: 03 December 2002 04:46
>> To: informix-list_at_iiug.org
>> Subject: Re: Informix/Oracle comparison on Data Storage terminology
>>
>>
>> Neil Truby wrote:
>>
>>>Does anyone with more than one month's experience actually use
>>
>> onmonitor?
>>
>> Yes. I typically use it once - when I initialize an instance.
>> Amongst other things, I can't be bothered to remember what the NETTYPE
>> entry is supposed to look like (there isn't a prototype entry in
>> onconfig.std), so I use ON-Monitor to ensure I get that bit right.
>>
>> After that, I use it seldom, but on occasion I do - database owner or
>> logging status can be useful on occasion, for example.
>>
>> [And I've seen some suggestion that perhaps 'onstat' was intended
>> instead of ON-Monitor--a question which makes much less sense to me; I
>> don't see how anyone who has anything to do with IDS administration
>> can avoid using onstat on occasion (and typically much more frequently
>> than just occasionally if performance is ever an issue). It's also
>> one of the faster ways to find out if the server is still up.]
>>
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