Re: If DBKit is so great why then.....

From: Yanik Crepeau <yanik_at_planon.qc.ca>
Date: 10 Jun 93 22:14:18 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Jun10.221418.2267_at_CAM.ORG!planon>


In article <1v7coo$ik_at_steffi.demon.co.uk> robert_at_steffi.demon.co.uk (Robert Nicholson) writes:
| Why can't the NeXT developer support people create DBKit examples that
| are server independant? Even if it means producing a completely new
| datamodel other than pubs in Sybase or demo in ORACLE
|

With Larry Ellison, CEO of Oracle, now on the board of NeXT, you can imagine that the rdbms of predilection will be Oracle.

After I have launched a discussion about Informix (which won't port its product on NS/FIP), I have learned that SYBASE won't port its product either. Ingres droped its NeXTSTEP developpment long time ago. Oracle remains the only "big name" in the SQL business for NeXTSTEP.

With Oracle, "big name" means big money more than any other rdbms company. I have purshased a developper package at Mac World Expo in August 1989 for $99. That package was full of bugs. The only way to fix the bugs was to buy an upgrade for $600. We purshased it in January 1990. The bug we wanted fixed the most was present in the upgraded version. The only answer we had from Oracle was to wait for the next upgrade. In March 1990 the upgrade was ready for another $1200 without any assurance that the bug was fixed. I am a programmer not a casino gambler.

An Oracle representative told me that unless we generate at least $50000 of revenue per year and we spent at least $5000 per year ourself for support, training and developpment tools, they are not interested to do business with us. He also added that the $99 promotion for the Macintosh Developpers Oracle package was intented to be a teaser for their current customers like Hydro Quebec (which spend thousands of dollars each year) and NOT to get new developpers or customers.

Before you order any Oracle product, ask Oracle if they are interested to have you as customer. Tell them how much you plan to spend in Oracle products each year and demand them if they can fit in your budget.

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Yanik Crepeau					
Programmer					
Planon Telexpertise					
E-Mail: yanik_at_planon.qc.ca (NeXT)
Received on Fri Jun 11 1993 - 00:14:18 CEST

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