Re: Oracle and Visio

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On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:33:07 -0500, Charles <> wrote:

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>>In the meantime they have clearly demonstrated they know nothing about
>>Oracle. It is quite common for those developers to *demand*
>>root-access, to screw up the server, and leave us with repairing the
>>shambles.
>
>You don't give them that access do you? All I've ever asked for is
>read-only access and that was only because I needed to monitor some of
>the scripts. The DBA's don't even try to hide the passwords anymore as
>they know I wouldn't use them anyway.
>

I'm *FORCED* by the customer

>>All developers I have been working with for the last 4 years largely
>>confirm to that profile.
>
>Does that include the truely experienced ones as well? I would think
>that the more experience a developer had, the more inclined they would
>be to use any available resource available. I'm lucky and work with 2
>DBA's that do an excellent job and are very easy to work with.
>

Those are the most dangerous. They *think* they know Oracle, but they don't. They also *think* they know better than any DBA

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>>I don't know any DBA how wants to work like that. I've known many
>>DBAs, including myself, who have become highly frustrated by those
>>morons.
>>
>I've seen this in how other teams treat their DBA's too. But I've
>found the problem typcially to be developers with 5 or so years
>experience - putting them at the point where they know everything.
>Amazing how they act about the same as my 13 and 15 year old kids.

Regards

Sybrand Bakker, Senior Oracle DBA

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