Re: Big disappointment with Postgres

From: Noons <>
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 11:35:13 +1100
Message-ID: <iinem2$8rm$>

prunoki wrote,on my timestamp of 7/02/2011 12:09 AM:

>> It's good to have this sort of thing exposed. These morons rely too much on
>> their little forums where everyone jumps the same way when the whistle sounds.
>> They need to be shown clearly that they are a vast minority, unlike what their
>> cozy little corners lead them to believe.
> Hmmm, not giving me the tools to let me solve my own problems in the
> way I want seems like a bad idea. And yes, migration projects can be
> extremely tricky that way. There is time for evil and dirty to make it
> work and there is time to remove them later.

Absolutely! Look at the arguments these bozos put forward.

"dbas should fix their apps instead of fiddling with sql hints"! Conveniently ignoring and bypassing that:

1- dbas do NOT own apps.  Bozo duhvelopers do.
2- dbas do NOT fix apps.  Bozo duhvelopers do.
3- dbas are charged with running an app in a reliable/stable fashion. 
Impossible to do when the software written by bozos is so unstable.

"if your app sql needs hints to run, you should re-write/re-design it" Conveniently ignoring and bypasing that: 1- dbas do NOT write app sql. Bozo duhvelopers do. 2- dbas do not design app code and its sql. Bozo duhvelopers do.

"only 0.1% of SQL needs hints"
Totally wrong. As usual: a figure plucked from their derrieres, with no context or even any true base, simply designed to elicit an emotive response. Far from it. It's more like 0.001%!
Case in point: payroll app from a well known maker. 90000 SQL statements, of which one (1!!!) sql statement causes payroll calculation runs to blow out to 30 hours instead of the usual 5 minutes.
That's around 0.0011% of the sql. Not 0.1%

Now, go and explain to the 2500 employees waiting for their pay that you will not fix the problem because hinting that 1 statement is "wrong" and instead you want to wait for the app duhveloper to patch it.

Can these idiots even grasp how ignorant and biased they sound? But of course it's the "dba's fault". And this from morons who are supposed to be responsible for a product... Received on Sun Feb 06 2011 - 18:35:13 CST

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