Re: known bugs in 10.2.0.1 on aix 64bit
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:48:24 -0700 (PDT)
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On Sep 15, 11:17 pm, John Hurley <hurleyjo..._at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> Just the 10.2.0.3 patchset? Or 10.2.0.3 patchset with various other
> one offs? ( Sorry the "patched up" terminology not clear at least to
> me ).
Patched up with various other one-offs. Located from known problems with ASSM and a few CBO and query result-set issues. If you want, I can get you the actual bug numbers, they are in our Opatch minidatabase.
> Any particular reason you have not gone past 10.2.0.3?
Yes, a few reasons:
I'm not paid to install patches to Oracle, I'm paid to provide
reliable database resources that run no matter what.
What we run on them is our business applications, and those have
priority. Not the database. The business aplications only require
Oracle 10g.
From past experience, the quickest way to throw out the reliability of
an Oracle installation is to install every dot patch that Oracle
delivers.
Unreliable services mean we're out of a job.
So far, we've been able to provide 100% - not 99.99, not "4 9s". 100%
= 0 (zero) unsheduled outage - in 12 instances supporting a wide
variety of consolidated production and dev/test environments of DW,
Hyperion, Peoplesoft, SOA/OSB, Apex and Forms applications over a
period of nearly 4 years.
Of course: that level of service delivery must be because we don't
know what we're doing.
In simple terms: if it's not broken, it is meeting the SLA *and* you do not need new db functionality, do NOT touch it.
Don't blame me, blame Oracle: it's their software, I don't write it. And I most certainly refuse to QA it for them, for free and at the expense of my professional delivery and reputation.
> How about the CPUs and ( just more recently ) the PSUs?
How about them? Read the prior answer. As well, I add:
CPUs are primarily security patches. We don't have a security
problem.
No, I don't care what "security experts" claim:
we get independently security audited twice a year and so far no one
has been able to poke through or find fault; those are the facts our
performance is measured upon.
Not hypothetical "web site" scenarios.
(How many commercial sites do you know of that audit security that
frequently?
Thought so...)
PSU's are too recent for me to form an opinion on them and anyway most do not apply to 10.2.0.3. And quite frankly: Oracle's "patch releases" mean nothing to me given their past history of instability.
Like I said: I'm paid to provide a reliable db service. Not Oracle
installs.
This is not a software house or IT services company. We run a business
that has nothing to do with software making: it just uses it. And my
job is to make sure we use it to the most.
I also back my claims with independent external audits which have
never found a flaw in any of our processes, in the nearly 4 years I've
been here.
Not being condescending or anything, just stating the facts.
Received on Thu Sep 16 2010 - 00:48:24 CDT