Re: Dataguard and OEM
From: joel garry <joel-garry_at_home.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:13:28 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <d5bdfacf-6bd4-45ce-a57e-0e7447f354f3_at_13g2000prl.googlegroups.com>
On Nov 2, 8:44 pm, Mladen Gogala <gogala.mla..._at_gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:53:07 -0800, joel garry wrote:
> > On Nov 1, 1:01 pm, Mladen Gogala <gogala.mla..._at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:49:08 +0100, Fabrice wrote:
> >> > You can avoid to read my post if you don't want.
>
> >> I can't know that without opening it. Please, go and subscribe to
> >> oracle-l. That is for beginners. This is not.
>
> >> --http://mgogala.freehos.com
>
> > I disagree. Why would this not be for beginners? See How to Ask
> > Questions the Smart Way. Does that not specifically say newbies in its
> > target audience? Non-beginners are an afterthought there. We don't
> > exclude newbies, we just insist they ask decent questions.
> > dbconsole/grid questions aren't necessarily indecent. But not searching
> > the web is indecent:
> >http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=837701
>
> > jg
>
> Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. You are right. Nevertheless, I do
> have a problem with the people unwilling to put in a bit of their own
> work. This guy wants to open EM console on a database that isn't even
> open, it's perpetually recovering. EM console usually needs an open
> database to create the repository in.
>
> He was, of course, unsuccessful but didn't stop to try to figure out why,
> he simply asked the question. That prompted my reaction. Beginners per se
> are, of course, welcome, much the same way that a lamb is welcome to the
> pack of wolves. The element of respect must be present or this forum will
> become as useless as oracle-l. Online forums are not a replacement for
> reading the manuals. There is no Steve Adams here to rescue the lambs.
>
> Quite appropriately, there is an old saying, usually attributed to Ben
> Franklin: democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for
> dinner. Liberty is well armed lamb contesting the vote.
>
> --http://mgogala.freehos.com
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:13:28 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <d5bdfacf-6bd4-45ce-a57e-0e7447f354f3_at_13g2000prl.googlegroups.com>
On Nov 2, 8:44 pm, Mladen Gogala <gogala.mla..._at_gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:53:07 -0800, joel garry wrote:
> > On Nov 1, 1:01 pm, Mladen Gogala <gogala.mla..._at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:49:08 +0100, Fabrice wrote:
> >> > You can avoid to read my post if you don't want.
>
> >> I can't know that without opening it. Please, go and subscribe to
> >> oracle-l. That is for beginners. This is not.
>
> >> --http://mgogala.freehos.com
>
> > I disagree. Why would this not be for beginners? See How to Ask
> > Questions the Smart Way. Does that not specifically say newbies in its
> > target audience? Non-beginners are an afterthought there. We don't
> > exclude newbies, we just insist they ask decent questions.
> > dbconsole/grid questions aren't necessarily indecent. But not searching
> > the web is indecent:
> >http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=837701
>
> > jg
>
> Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. You are right. Nevertheless, I do
> have a problem with the people unwilling to put in a bit of their own
> work. This guy wants to open EM console on a database that isn't even
> open, it's perpetually recovering. EM console usually needs an open
> database to create the repository in.
>
> He was, of course, unsuccessful but didn't stop to try to figure out why,
> he simply asked the question. That prompted my reaction. Beginners per se
> are, of course, welcome, much the same way that a lamb is welcome to the
> pack of wolves. The element of respect must be present or this forum will
> become as useless as oracle-l. Online forums are not a replacement for
> reading the manuals. There is no Steve Adams here to rescue the lambs.
>
> Quite appropriately, there is an old saying, usually attributed to Ben
> Franklin: democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for
> dinner. Liberty is well armed lamb contesting the vote.
>
> --http://mgogala.freehos.com
Sounds like we're all agreed here. Let's get some mint jelly and a metal detector.
jg
-- _at_home.com is bogus. "Why believe that people once put razor blades into apples and you should only eat wrapped candies? Because everyone else believes it (it's an urban legend)." - Seth Grodin who obviously doesn't read snopes: http://www.snopes.com/horrors/mayhem/needles.aspReceived on Tue Nov 03 2009 - 11:13:28 CST