Re: recent drivel posted by Tony Rogerson on his blog

From: DA Morgan <damorgan_at_psoug.org>
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 08:49:06 -0700
Message-ID: <1191340135.315710@bubbleator.drizzle.com>

Serge Rielau wrote:
> DA Morgan wrote:

>> Hasta wrote:
>>> In article <6obuf3pljqn6v5ma6gkfhc7qlg9n1b6l6p_at_4ax.com>, 
>>> sybrandb_at_hccnet.nl says...
>>>> Please look at 
>>>> http://sqlblogcasts.com/blogs/tonyrogerson/archive/2007/08/23/oracle-documentation-you-think-we-have-it-bad.aspx 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO USE http://tahiti.oracle.com
>>>>
>>>> What a yoke Mr. Rogerson is, self-appointed 'expert'!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sybrand, in my opinion he is dead right on this one.
>>>
>>> For me, and for others, tahiti is unintuitive and hard
>>> to use (and I've been using it for years)
>>
>> I routinely use the websites for Oracle, DB2, Informix, and
>> SQL Server, and Sybase. Tahiti is their equal.
>> If you don't believe me try this simple test:
>>
>> Try the search string "CREATE TABLE" at the following:
>> http://www.oracle.com/pls/db102/homepage?remark=tahiti
>> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms203721.aspx
>> http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/db2luw/v8//index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.db2.udb.doc/welcome.htm 
>>
>> http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/idshelp/v10/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.ddi.doc/ddi74.htm 
>>
>> http://sybooks.sybase.com/nav/base.do
>>
>> If you see a significant difference I'd love to hear about it.
>> Not just I like green better than blue but specific functionality
>> one has that is significantly better than the other.

> Apparently Oracle thought there was room for improvement:
> http://www.oracle.com/pls/db111/homepage
> Note the new explorer on the left, which's absense Tony was commenting
> on I believe.
> You can fail him for pointing to old documentation....
>
> I think we all grow up to like what we are used to (surprise).
> For example I can't stand that BOL has lumped anything from
> statements to T-SQL to functions to global variables into one group.
> And I was quite p***ed when DB2 started moving into a similar direction.
> Taste...
>
> I'm jealous at the IDS docs for making syntax diagrams links.
> "expression", wassat? *click* oh! Nice...
>
> Cheers
> Serge

I know and actually find it annoying to lose screen real-estate but, as you said, we all like what we're used to.

My solution was to write my own docs, thus Morgan's Library. If I don't like the format I at least know who to talk to. <g>

-- 
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
damorgan_at_x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
Puget Sound Oracle Users Group
www.psoug.org

Received on Tue Oct 02 2007 - 10:49:06 CDT