On Apr 28, 5:32 pm, "fitzjarr..._at_cox.net" <fitzjarr..._at_cox.net> wrote:
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> On Apr 27, 11:25 am, dbaplusp..._at_hotmail.com wrote:
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> > On Apr 27, 12:35 am, Geoff Muldoon <geoff.muld..._at_trap.gmail.com>
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> > > Mladen Gogala says...
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> > > > On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:39:31 -0700, dbaplusplus wrote:
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> > > > > Those peolpe who support a bully who is a racist need help.
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> > > > And you're a doctor now? Not only a "dba plus plus", but also a
> > > > doctor? Admirable. You managed to start a flame war with two
> > > > experienced DBA guys in a very short period of time. May be
> > > > you should join the Teraknowledge team? Omlet sounds like the
> > > > right career move for you.
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> > > You sure Omlet hasn't just nym-shifted?
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> > > GM
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> > I have nothing to do with Omlet even though some bad guys here will
> > try thier best to mislead.
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> Using humour to defuse anger is, apparently, a concept with which
> you're totally unware. It is nowhere near libel, which you've accused
> your 'bad guys' of practicing. Simply because you're irritating to
> those who do know Oracle doesn't make those who are irriated 'bad
> guys'. It does make you annoying, however.
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> > I am a person who loves Oracle. I want to use this forum to discuss
> > Oacle topics without being harassed
> > by bullies who constantly insult others and make racial remarks as
> > well (just search in this group how many racist remarks and insults
> > have been made by Sybrand),
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> Do us all, and especially yourself, a favour and actually LEARN the
> product by reading the documentation, instead of asking questions
> easily answered by a quick lookup at tahiti.oracle.com only because
> you do not possess the desire to actually do your own work, but to
> have others do your legwork for you. When you finally learn the
> product you may then, and only then, 'discuss Oacle topics' [direct
> quote]. As it stands at the moment you're not discussing anything;
> you're only asking for handouts.
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> > As I said in previous thread I used to have high opinion of Mladen
> > Gogala and others,
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> That the responses to your repeated bleating and moaning don't measure
> up to your expectations is absolutely no reason to change your opinion
> of those you once held in high esteem, as it is the depth and breadth
> of their knowledge, and the fact they do not possess unlimited
> patience for beggars, which causes them to respond in such a manner.
> Your 'interrogatories', to gild the lilly, are nothing more than
> whining testaments to your unwillingness to help yourself. "Give a
> man a fish, and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he'll
> eat for a lifetime." You're doing nothing more than searching for yet
> another soul who will give you a daily fish, even though we have tried
> (unsuccessfully) to teach you how to fish. Stop standing on the pier
> begging others for part of their catch, as most are wise to your ways
> and know you have little, if anything, to contribute in return.
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> > However, I am finding more bad guys.
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> Sorry, no, your perception is distorted. You're alienating more
> people, thus placing them, by your uninformed opinion, in your 'bad
> guy' bin.
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> > I am
> > spreading word to my friends other newgroups and whoemever I can to
> > avoid these bad guys and do not buy any books which they may be
> > writing. Internet is a powerful tool to spread such message quickly.
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> The internet is also a powerful tool by which misinformation is
> spread, and you're contributing greatly to this stampede of
> ignorance. You feel slighted because someone told you a truth about
> yourself you didn't want to hear; you respond by name-calling and
> posting a one-sided viewpoint (although your side is by no means
> completely constructed) in hopes that others will believe you, and not
> the truth. Remember that the internet is also a place where half-
> truths and untruths come to their final resting place; expect to find
> your diatribes enshrined forever in that cemetary.
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> > In tis group, people should be able to dicuss oracle topics without
> > being constantly harsssed by bullies.
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> People can, and do, with surprising regularity. You're not discussing
> anything; one needs prior knowledge of a topic to consider joining a
> discussion, something which you lack as evidenced by your repeated
> attempts to coerce information you need from those you see as 'willing
> marks' or 'easy prey'. Were you to spend half of the energy you've
> dedicated to fueling this flame war with Sybrand Bakker to actually
> reading the documentation and asking clarifying questions which prove
> you *have* read the material and are having difficulty grasping
> certain concepts you would have answered all of your own questions by
> now. Instead you expend untold effort bitching and moaning over
> accurate assessments of your behaviour, assessments which you delude
> yourself into believing are false. Look into the mirror, with an
> unjaundiced eye, and give yourself an unvarnished evaluation. Or,
> better yet, ask someone you trust to give you such an assessment.
> Sometimes the truth hurts; accepting the truth is the first step
> toward self-improvement. And don't respond to this with yet another
> senseless diatribe of how you're presenting the truth and we're too
> blind to see it. Too many of us have a similar opinion of you to
> be wrong in our evaluation. The truth lies in our responses; you'd be
> wise to learn from them, rather than berate them for containing
> information you'd rather not know about yourself.
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> David Fitzjarrell- Hide quoted text -
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You have already been told you are a moron. Your mail proves that
again.
Received on Mon Apr 30 2007 - 21:04:12 CDT
