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Re: connect system/password@xe doesn't work

From: <JL19348_at_HOTMAIL.CO.UK>
Date: 12 Mar 2007 14:14:57 -0700
Message-ID: <1173734096.901948.314350@8g2000cwh.googlegroups.com>


On Mar 11, 7:30 pm, "fitzjarr..._at_cox.net" <fitzjarr..._at_cox.net> wrote:
> On Mar 11, 11:10 am, JL19..._at_HOTMAIL.CO.UK wrote:
>
>
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> > On Mar 11, 2:55 pm, "fitzjarr..._at_cox.net" <fitzjarr..._at_cox.net> wrote:
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> > > Comments embedded.
> > > On Mar 11, 5:46 am, JL19..._at_HOTMAIL.CO.UK wrote:
>
> > > > Hi, I am not a DBA, I am interested in Oracle (4 weeks experience
> > > > mainly at work), and am moving from Windows/SQL Server to Linux/Oracle
> > > > for my 2 computer home network for learning.
>
> > > > I have a problem with my new Oracle XE installation. During
> > > > installation I accepted all the defaults. My problem is that I can
> > > > connect as some users from computer2 to computer1 (which has Oracle
> > > > on it) but not all, specifically system/manager. I need to connect as
> > > > system/manager onto computer1 from computer2 as computer1 doesn't have
> > > > a monitor/vga card/keyboard.
>
> > > Interesting. How do you explain your posted output connecting from
> > > computer1, then?
>
> > > > Do I need to set something somewhere
> > > > (init.ora ??) or has my installation failed somehow. You will see what
> > > > I have tried below for computer1 and computer2 and the Oracle error
> > > > message I am getting. What I see tells me that the passwords and
> > > > tnsnames.ora are setup properly too.
>
> > > > Thank you
> > > > John
>
> > > > computer1 (Oracle XE installed. Suse 9 x86):
>
> > > > sqlplus system/manager_at_xe CONNECTS OK
>
> > > > sqlplus hr/hr_at_xe CONNECTS OK
>
> > > Interesting this works without a keyboard/card/monitor.
>
> > > > computer2 (Oracle client installed, Ubuntu x86):
>
> > > > sqlplus hr/hr_at_xe CONNECTS OK
>
> > > > sqlplus system/manager_at_xe GIVES THE FOLLOWING ERROR
>
> > > > john_at_ub04:~$ sqlplus system/manager_at_xe
>
> > > > SQL*Plus: Release 10.2.0.1.0 - Production on Sun Mar 11 10:35:19 2007
>
> > > > Copyright (c) 1982, 2005, Oracle. All rights reserved.
>
> > > > ERROR:
> > > > ORA-01017: invalid username/password; logon denied
>
> > > > Enter user-name:
>
> > > It appears your remote password file may be preventing you from
> > > connecting as system or sys from a remote computer. Still, if you CAN
> > > connect from computer1 you don't 'need' to connect as these accounts
> > > from computer2, do you? You reported you have no keyboard, monitor or
> > > card for computer1 yet you post output from a direct connection
> > > attempt from that very same computer. How can that be if, as you
> > > claim, "computer1 doesn't have a monitor/vga card/keyboard."
>
> > > Strange behaviour, indeed.
>
> > > David Fitzjarrell
>
> > Hello David and thank you for replying on a Sunday.
>
> > > from computer2, do you? You reported you have no keyboard, monitor or
> > > card for computer1 yet you post output from a direct connection
> > > attempt from that very same computer. How can that be if, as you
> > > claim, "computer1 doesn't have a monitor/vga card/keyboard."
>
> > Oh that's easy to answer. I just ssh'd onto computer1 (which has
> > Oracle installed on it). Computer1 doesn't have a monitor, keyboard or
> > VGA card installed on it really, my desk really isn't big enough :) I
> > could keep doing this but this would be a work around. I want to be
> > able to type "sqlplus system/manager_at_xe" from my second computer.
>
> > I read what you have written. I have tried to search on "remote
> > password file site:oracle.com" using Google and the search
> > functionality provided by Oracle but can't find the write pdf
> > describing a value in the init file I should set. I would really
> > appreciate a reference or keyword to search on. My problem is knowing
> > what to search on to find out what I need to do.
>
> > Thank you very much
>
> > John- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Since you can connect to your Oracle database with accounts other than
> SYSTEM it could be you're using the 'oracle' account on computer1
> when you connect via ssh and, by the rights given you by the dba group
> at the O/S level, any password you choose to present for SYSTEM is
> silently ignored and you're connected anyway. Thus you DO have an
> invalid password as you likely set to something else (something you
> have forgotten) during the database creation process. The simplest
> way to verify this is to change the SYSTEM password to MANAGER (not
> the best idea as that is the default password known world-wide and
> possibly even in other galaxies and it could open any number of
> security holes in your system) OR change it to something else
> (something less obvious and more difficult to guess) and try that new
> password from computer2. And now you ask, "But, gee, if I don't
> really know the SYSTEM password how ever will I change it?" One
> simply connects as SYS as SYSDBA (I would definitely ssh into
> computer1 to do this) and, from the SQL> prompt type:
>
> alter user system identified by <some shiny new password here>;
>
> As an example:
>
> alter user system identified by th3rm1stocl3s;
>
> Please remember what you type for <some shiny new password here> as
> you don't want to make changing the SYSTEM password a daily or weekly
> occurrence. My guess is your connection problems as SYSTEM will
> magically disappear once you have a new, valid password for the
> account.
>
> David Fitzjarrell

Thank you David !

> when you connect via ssh and, by the rights given you by the dba group
> at the O/S level, any password you choose to present for SYSTEM is
> silently ignored and you're connected anyway.

That was it, my password was wrong but because the user was in the dba group, it didn't matter and I thought it was correct. Amazing !

Thank you again.
John Received on Mon Mar 12 2007 - 16:14:57 CDT

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