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Re: No future for DB2

From: Mark A <nobody_at_nowhere.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:44:02 -0600
Message-ID: <W7ydnQZaYaVc8HTfRVn-3A@comcast.com>


"DA Morgan" <damorgan_at_psoug.org> wrote in message news:1122536353.139043_at_yasure...
>
> Even if your statements are correct I don't believe it is going to
> happen that way.
>
> Lets say I have DB2 in my facility ... I was at a major IBM shop in
> Portland Oregon three weeks ago that is precisely that.
>
> And lets say the CTO isn't a software bigot but rather has his
> corporation's best interests at heart. The CTO has a choice ... hire
> young inexperienced talent and train them up to the level of those of
> us in our 50s and 60s on mainframes which means also teaching COBOL, CICS,
> MVS JCL, OS/390, z/OS, TSO, VSAM, IMS, REXX, ISPF, and CLISTS
> or get already trained talent straight out of a college program.
>
> Lets say the CFO of the firm has a choice of maintaining big iron
> with attendant costs in infrastructure including power conditioning,
> air conditioning, etc. or can build a mainframe from 2 proc or 4 proc
> commodity hardware for a fraction of the cost and get the same
> computing power at a fraction of the cost. Look at the number of
> super computers now build from commodity hardware for example.
>
> And lets say the Board of Directors is paying attention to the fact
> that reducing costs increases the value per share of the stock which
> is their fiduciary responsibility to the stockholders the direction
> is clear.
>
> The number of DBAs required in the future is going down like the
> value of Sun Microsystems stock.
>
> So yes there will be holes in the organization created. But I've yet
> to meet the CTO whose solution was to incur the cost of training on
> mainframe technologies. Heck most won't even pay money to train their
> existing staff and they too need it.
>
> It is all about dollars.
> The C-Level management is looking out for the bottom line.
> We need to be look out for our mortgage payments.
> --
> Daniel A. Morgan

You seem to be talking about DB2 for Linux, UNIX, and Windows (LUW) and DB2 for z/OS as if they are one product and confusing the entire issue we are discussing.

Secondly, DB2 on both the mainframe and LUW is far easier to learn and administer than Oracle, at least for now. As Oracle gets easier to use, the number of people required to administer it (DBA's) will decrease. Received on Thu Jul 28 2005 - 18:44:02 CDT

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