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Re: FAQ - Etiquette - and how to get an answer

From: <bbulsara23_at_hotmail.com>
Date: 31 Mar 2005 07:56:04 -0800
Message-ID: <1112284564.786077.92700@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>


You are posting this same message again and again and the people that write the snarky unhelpful comments that start all the flame wars are not reading it. We all know if you ask a question in this newsgroup, these bastards continue to post "get your DBA to install" or "you don't know what you are talking about and I have students that after 1 hours training would not write such bad code". If you haven't guessed, one of these anal and generally unhelpful people is the "expert" in italics Daniel Morgan.

I am even surprised he has not told you there is an error in your post!

> One of the archives and entry points for this news
> group (with a lag of about 48 hours) is:
> http://www.google.com
> select the GROUPS tab
> then work through the list to
> comp -> databases -> oracle
> then pick the most appropriate of the four available.

The lag has gone. Postings show up immediately.

You should send your message to Daniel Morgan directly.

Barry

Jonathan Lewis wrote:
> There are several FAQs about the Oracle database
> scattered around the Internet, and many ways of
> finding answers to the shorter questions about Oracle
> very quickly.
>
> The following list is a suggestion of where you might
> find answers to questions that you feel should have an
> obvious answer.
>
>
> The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ
> http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html
>
>
> One of the archives and entry points for this news
> group (with a lag of about 48 hours) is:
> http://www.google.com
> select the GROUPS tab
> then work through the list to
> comp -> databases -> oracle
> then pick the most appropriate of the four available.
>
> If you post through this Google (or similar) facility
> please remember that there are four subgroups:
> server, misc, tools, marketplace, and post to the
> most appropriate one.
>
> A search engine for searching the manuals for
> current versions of Oracle software
> 8.1.7, 9.0.1, 9.2 and 10.1 for the database,
> 9.0.2, 9.0.4 , 10.1.2 for the application server,
> 9.0.3 and 9.0.4 for Collaboration suite
> exists at
> http://tahiti.oracle.com
>
>
> Oracle technology Network (free registration) which
> includes documentation, free limited use software,
> and sample code fragments
> http://technet.oracle.com
>
>
> Oracle Metalink (requires a support licence) contains
> a number of forums, a searchable knowledge base,
> and a searchable bug database.
> http://www.oracle.com/support/metalink/index.html
>
> IDEA - every recent release has a 'Known Issues'
> document describing new bugs. Used the advanced
> search with the EXACT PHRASE option to search for
> Known issues specific
> This will give you a list relevant documents - as at the
> time of writing (with apologies for the no-doubt messy
> formatting):
>
> Subject Doc ID Modified Date Product Platform Type
> 10.1.0.3 Patch Set - Known Issues
> 280554.1 09-MAR-2005 Oracle Server - Enterprise Edition Generic
README
> 9.2.0.5 Patch Set - Known Issues
> 263792.1 09-MAR-2005 Oracle Server - Enterprise Edition Generic
README
> 9.2.0.6 Patch Set - Known Issues
> 283899.1 09-MAR-2005 Oracle Server - Enterprise Edition Generic
README
> 9.2.0.4 Patch Set - Known Issues
> 245984.1 18-FEB-2005 Oracle Server - Enterprise Edition Generic
README
> 10.1.0.2 Base Release - Known Issues
> 263729.1 18-FEB-2005 Oracle Server - Enterprise Edition Generic
README
> 9.2.0.2 Patch Set - Known Issues
> 246010.1 02-NOV-2004 Oracle Server - Enterprise Edition Generic
README
> 9.2.0.3 Patch Set - Known Issues
> 246001.1 02-NOV-2004 Oracle Server - Enterprise Edition Generic
README
>
>
> Thomas Kyte is an Oracle employee who writes the
> popular Ask Tom column in the Oracle magazine,
> and maintains a website holding many real-life
> questions and answers at:
> http://asktom.oracle.com
>
>
> Steve Adams is a highly respected member of the
> Oracle community and his website, apart from the
> wealth of information it contains, also has a
> search engine which indexes a select sub-set of
> the Oracle-related websites that are on the Internet.
> http://www.ixora.com.au
>
>
> For Security-related mattered, Pete Finnigan is probably
> the best starting point. Apart from writing a book and
> several articles about Oracle Security, he maintains an
> annotated listing of references to other web articles on
> the subject.
> http://www.petefinnigan.com/orasec.htm
>
>
> If you want to help the newsgroup help you then:
>
> a) Check at least the first two resources above
> before posting your message. They may contain a
> discussion document that gives you more help than
> a direct answer to your specific question could.
> It is worth mentioning the resources you have
> checked as a lead-in to your question.
>
>
> b) Quote the Oracle version number, and operating
> system that you are running on. Answers that are
> good for version 8 may be 2nd-rate for version 9
> and completely stupid for version 10.
>
>
> c) If you say that something "doesn't work", that doesn't
> give anyone a clue about the problem. Always quote
> any error messages you get, and tell us a bit about
> the environment (e.g. SQL*Plus, VB, pl/sql called
> from Pro*C).
>
>
> d) Feedback is important - if you find a good answer
> to the question you asked, post it to the newsgroup.
> (If it is an article on a website, email me below with
> the question, site, comment, and the URL and I can
> add it as a reference to the FAQ).
>
>
> e) If someone has got you out of a hole, it's quite
> a nice touch to thank them (possibly by direct mail)
> And if they haven't managed to help, it's quite useful
> for everyone to explain what went wrong when you
> tried their solution.
>
>
> f) RTFM is not a civilised answer. Although there may
> be questions that you feel deserve this response,
> it would be better to phrase it as a URL or other
> pointer to the appropriate bit of the manual.
>
>
> g) If you have used one of the search methods above,
> and subsequently see a question asked on the same
> topic, please consider posting the address of the resource
> to the person asking the question.
>
> --
>
> Regards
>
> Jonathan Lewis
> http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk
Received on Thu Mar 31 2005 - 09:56:04 CST

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