Re: SPAM DB has been released

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, mcstockX_at_Xenquery .com wrote:
>
> i've been enjoying this thread almost as much as the funny
> papers...
>
> i finally looked up the original PEAR DB announcement ... even
> though it was non-profit-ware, it was definitely a marketing
> announcement and, yeah, the poster was obviously looking to
> direct folks to his website

Yes. That much was clear.

> i don't think simple announcements and product recommendations
> are necessarily inappropriate, but the poster really needs to
> be somewhat aware of 'community standards', and is certainly
> more respected if he/she has a history of contributing to the
> core reason for the group's existence

Yes, this is what I was getting at. I think the OP just didn't understand that blasting a bunch of newsgroups is frowned upon. His intent wasn't to make money but to share his open source work. His methods of doing so just made him seem nothing more than annoying.

> jonathan's posts do have a rather healthy element of marketing
> in their signature, but he doesn't become the object of
> weeks-long tirades because 1) he's known and respected 2) his
> ads come after polite and useful and on-the-point answers 3) he
> has (other than the 15+ lines of advertisements) probably the
> best netiquette of any participant in these newsgroups -- he
> never berates any poster, doesn't waste time telling people
> they are wasting his time, doesn't indulge in spam-patrol, and
> is clever enough not to respond to discussions like this one (i
> claim a somewhat lower level of cleverness on that score)

Well said. I hope it was clear I wasn't considering Jonathan's postings spam. I was just challenging Daniel on his tirade.

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Galen Boyer