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Re: Tom Kyte a false idol?

From: Jim Kennedy <kennedy-down_with_spammers_at_no_spam.comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 15:05:39 GMT
Message-ID: <7zk9b.264181$2x.71611@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>


Thanks Tyler, good info and I suspected as much. Tom is genuine. Jim
"Tyler D. Muth" <tyler_muth_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1afec35e.0309150632.578aa32d_at_posting.google.com...
> I'll only respond to the factual inaccuracies of this post, as
> impressions of others personalities are wholly subjective and cannot
> be argued.
>
> I am a co-worker of Tom's and have been asked several times by Tom to
> respond to questions on AskTom where I might be in a position to
> provide a better answer. Tom does this from time to time as he works
> with a number of people who are considered "experts" on certain topics
> which, to the benefit of his readers, Tom chooses to leverage. The
> important point here is that Tom gives credit where it is due and
> clearly states that he is not answering the question, as evidenced by:
>
>

http://asktom.oracle.com/pls/ask/f?p=4950:8:::::F4950_P8_DISPLAYID:1739411218448
>

http://asktom.oracle.com/pls/ask/f?p=4950:8:::::F4950_P8_DISPLAYID:688976960025
>

http://asktom.oracle.com/pls/ask/f?p=4950:8:::::F4950_P8_DISPLAYID:4061080732051
>

http://asktom.oracle.com/pls/ask/f?p=4950:8:::::F4950_P8_DISPLAYID:2200894550208
>

http://asktom.oracle.com/pls/ask/f?p=4950:8:::::F4950_P8_DISPLAYID:6749198829295
>
>
> The second point I'd like to make is that nobody else was answering
> questions for Tom during OracleWorld. I flew out with him and when I
> met him in the airport, he was sitting there with his laptop, AirCard,
> and external battery answering away. I caught him answering questions
> on several other occasions at OracleWorld. So unless you see the "I
> asked so-and-so to answer this for me" line in at the beginning of the
> response, assume it was from Tom.
>
> If you feel that he was not responsible for the material in his books,
> send him an email asking him for a break-down of the chapters and who
> authored them. I'm sure he'd be happy to CC the co-authors in case
> they wish to disagree.
>
>
> pharfromhome_at_hotmail.com (Geomancer) wrote in message
news:<cf90fb89.0309121934.70a97463_at_posting.google.com>...
> > Umm, I'm realy confused by this Gog-like worship of Tom Kyte.
> >
> > To me, "Tom Kyte" is the name of a product, a figurehead for a huge
> > corporate marketing machine, and it strikes me a ludicrous that a
> > group of intelligent people would not be aware of this.
> >
> > Some folks feel that "Tom Kyte" is just another Oracle marketing tool,
> > and no more real than Santa Claus.
> >
> > As I see it, the real credit goes to an entire staff of real DBAs (and
> > the Oracle development staff) who crank-out material with his name on
> > it. As a VP, he has dozens of people to produce the voluminous
> > examples on his web site.
> >
> > One need to look no farther than his web site. During the week he
> > spent at OracleWorld, hundreds of lines of answers were provided on
> > his web site. No way he wrote all that at the same time he attended
> > the conference.
> >
> > It's easy to be right when you have the resources of a multi-billion
> > dollar company behind you. I was also suprised to find that Kyte is
> > not "worshipped" by everyone, and there are those who say that he is
> > arrogant, snitty and insulting. I've been told that he sometimes
> > refers to questions as "stupid" on his asktom web site, and openly
> > insults people at public appearances.
> >
> > Personally, I admire Steve Adams and Jonathan Lewis (and even Connor
> > and HJR) far more, because they are self-made and have gained their
> > reputations without the benefit of full-page ads in Oracle Magazine,
> > etc.
> >
> > I'm sure I'll get flamed for this, but I like the self-made experts. .
> > . .
Received on Mon Sep 15 2003 - 10:05:39 CDT

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