Re: Are Oracle GUIs causing a decline in DBA salaries?

Karsten Farrell <kfarrell_at_belgariad.com> wrote:

>forbrich_at_telusplanet.net said...
>> Why of course ... grab the mouse, cover your eyes, point and click. What could be easier? Mind you, it's insane
>> but who said anything about needing to do real DBA work?
>>
>> It's management's perception that counts. And if management thinks it can be done in 1/2 the time and at 1/2 the
>> cost with 1/2 the expertise using GUI, they have the right to pay for what they get <g>
>>
>I'm sorry, but I must be missing something here. Why are GUI users
>equated with unskilled, rank amateurs? Why is something that makes my
>job easier a bad thing? And what's wrong with providing tools to assist
>those who ain't an old goat like me (eg, newbie DBAs)?
>
>I didn't use GUIs with Oracle 5, 6, or 7 ... any more than I used a GUI
>to write my Fortran or Cobol programs ... but I don't see how a DBA who
>uses a GUI today is _less_ skilled than one who doesn't. Using the
>command line doesn't make a DBA _more_ skilled than one who doesn't.
>
>And in many cases, using a GUI does allow a DBA to do some tasks in half
>the time. If there's a GUI tool that helps me do my job, I use it. If
>there isn't a GUI tool available, then I do it the old-fashioned way.
>
>This idea that "real men don't use GUIs" is an old myth.
>
>Let the flames begin!

Flame one ( actually not):

Having 1 less skill ( the knowledge of command-line interfaces) does make one less skilled.. As to how important this lack is, it depends on whether there will ALWAYS be a GUI interface available when you need to fix a hosed Oracle installation....The command line will be there..( unless the OS is gone)

It is a tool to assist and most tasks ( but not all, especially if the database has crashed and needs detailed and specific recovery techniques ) can be accomplished thru a GUI,but ONLY knowing the GUI is a problem....

Know all you can...Too much knowledge is an oxymoron....

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