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Re: Heavens!

From: sdg <nospan_at_noway.org>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 14:20:35 GMT
Message-ID: <3E9D65EF.F4819BE8@noway.org>


Got the first two JL and TK but can not figure out SA.

Howard Rogers wrote:

> "Nuno Souto" <wizofoz2k_at_yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:73e20c6c.0304151750.3eae81dc_at_posting.google.com...
> > "Howard J. Rogers" <howardjr2000_at_yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:<5T%ma.15205$1s1.240230_at_newsfeeds.bigpond.com>...
> >
> > > Online Redo Logs:
> > > snipperoo...
> > > Scary, huh?
> >
> >
> > Don't even know where to start...
> >
> >
> > > I wouldn't mind, but the organisation that has this for download proudly
> > > boasts on its home page that it is an Oracle Approved Training Centre.
> >
> >
> > Shows how much that endorsement is worth, doesn't it?
> > Ah yes I forgot: it's all about revenue!
> > Certainly not about *training*...
> >
>
> You might certainly think that, but I couldn't possibly comment....
>
> >
> > >
> > > Sometimes, I despair. There really seems, sometimes, very little point
> in
> > > trying to learn (or teach) this stuff properly when this nonsense is
> doing
> > > the rounds, or certain well-known authors promote their rubbish ad
> nauseum.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Howard, one of the reasons I gave up on being a full time DBA
> > was that for nearly 14 years I was bombarded with this kind
> > of rubbish. By whomever Oracle decided to promote as
> > "expert du jour".
> >
> > On and on, relentlessly, I had to put up with this sort of rubbish
> > and a LOT MORE. And *NOT ONCE* did Oracle EVER support me in getting
> > this ignorance off the market. Quite the opposite, in fact.
> > Dunno about you, but it gets sort of "under the skin" after a while...
>
> Very much so. I practically tore the head off one student two weeks' ago who
> disagreed with my explanation of Block Sizes ... 'it says in <insert name of
> well known book here> that big blocks are for Warehouses and small ones are
> for OLTP'. I give up.
>
> The whole thing is marketing gone utterly mad. I wouldn't mind the Peddlar's
> peddling as hard as they do if they for one moment would shut up about how
> 'expert', 'respected' and 'leading' they are. But they don't, because
> they're only interested in leveraging their publishability for increased
> consulting fees. I don't see JL, TK and SA doing that (and of course they
> still make mistakes, as we all do), but somehow the market doesn't see the
> difference.
>
> It's not just a shame, it's abysmal. And absurd.
>
> Maybe I should try to care less. Dunno. I've tried it, and maybe its just
> the Catholic boy in me, but there *is* a right and wrong answer, and try as
> hard as I might, I can't bring myself to let the wrong answer... the totally
> incompetent answer... lie on the record.
>
> Meanwhile, the Peddlars get rich and I get an ulcer.
>
> God clearly hates scientific DBAs.
>
> I'm thinking of taking up a much less stressful occupation, such as
> 'housewife'.
>
> >
> >
> > > (Oh, and incidentally, this is all contained in their "helpful"
> exam-cram
> > > for 8i OCP Backup and Recovery exam. I wonder if any of their students
> ever
> > > passed?).
> >
> > Of course they passed! I've met heaps of them around...
>
> None from my courses, I assure you!!
>
> Regards
> HJR
>
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Nuno Souto
> > wizofoz2k_at_yahoo.com.au.nospam
Received on Wed Apr 16 2003 - 09:20:35 CDT

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