Re: How to start a Stored Procedure directly from Unix shell skript ?

In article <73e20c6c.0303131856.2dc6ea42_at_posting.google.com>, wizofoz2k_at_yahoo.com.au says...
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>Pete Sharman <peter.sharman_at_oracle.com> wrote in message
>news:<b4npkp01241_at_drn.newsguy.com>...
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>>I shall speak severely to Mr. Slee and Mr. Matthews to straighten them out. :)
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>And get ANOTHER two people at Oracle who hate me? Thanks Peter,
>you're doing well! :)

No problems. They actually already hated you anyway! ;)

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>Seriously: there is nothing wrong with what they said.
>If DEC had made clusters as hard to setup/manage as RAC is now,
>they would never have taken off. So ANYTHING that simplifies
>the stuff is most welcome!

Indeed, and that continues to be a focuse area. It started in 9.2 with the stuff that is only available on Compaq (of course!) and it will undoubtedly continue into the future.

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>Let's face it: the technology is brilliant. Save a MAJOR
>improvement in the performance of single CPU servers, I can see
>it as the way to go for scalability.
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>There is one aspect to RAC I'm sure hasn't sunk in properly
>with you folks at Oracle: it puts the bee in the bonnet of DB2
>like NOTHING Oracle has EVER done! The IBM guy was remarkably
>silent during the funny bits about scalability... I asked him a
>few skewed questions after the meeting and he ran away from the
>issue like a possessed rabbit! DB2 is simply out of this league,
>with their "shared-nothing" architecture crap. Just for that, RAC
>deserves as much attention inside Oracle as it can get.

Actually, it has sunk in. It's one of the major points Development makes on virtually any RAC call I've heard.

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>But last thing I want is go to a customer and have to go through
>hoops of certifications of this and that to get it to work.
>It's one area where automation is definitely the way to go.
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Again, totally agree. And you'll see that the certification mechanism has changed dramatically in recent months. Oracle doesn't certify hardware any more for RAC. If the combination of disk and OS and so on is validated by the OS provider as a supported cluster configuration, that's it. RAC should work on it without any problem. If it doesn't, then it's a bug.

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>>As for the death of the RAC specialist, there's probably less than 10 of those
>> anyway! ;)
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>Judging by the number of "experts" and "product managers"
>in that room, the blessed things must be breeding like rabbits!
>Even heard of people with "y-e-a-r-s of experience" in setting up
>Oracle and RAC on Linux. Oh well, MOTS as expected: lots of
>"positioning"... When is it being included in OCP? ;D
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Nuno, you should be familiar with this already! Wasn't it you who mentioned having someone with 4 years of Forms 6 experience less than 2 years after it came out (or something similar)? Whenever you get something that's new and cool (and I really think RAC is one of the coolest things Oracle has done in years), everyone leaps on the bandwagon and claims to be an expert. How many of them really are? Probably less than 5% is my guess.

OCP? It's already included, at least as far as the OCM is concerned. The RAC training can count as your "advanced" class requirement. :)
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>Cheers
>Nuno Souto
>wizofoz2k_at_yahoo.com.au.nospam

HTH. Additions and corrections welcome.

Pete

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