Re: Comparison of Java, C# for development on Windows and future for them

She is not silly---I think that it is a common and intelligent move.

About microsoft only appearing open, I TOTALLY AGREE. True, they can't help but act like any other corporation their size, but it doesn't change the fact that their strategy is often way too predatory.

I also agree that Belinda should not listen to other people. I think people tend to religiously gravitate to one of two camps: MS or <everyone else>, myself included. This doesn't invalidate the arguments however, just be aware of the *religious* biases.

"kim bruning" <kim_at_NObruning.SPAMdemon.HEREnl.invalid> wrote in message news:hiqmva.10u.ln_at_bruning.demon.nl...
> Belinda <belindacur_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Hi All
>
> > I am a C++ programmer and I am now planning to make a transition to
> > either C# or Java.
>
> Do *WHAT*? You're silly, you know that, right?
>
> I'm transitioning to C++, nice to meet someone going the other way.
>
> > I am not sure whether to take up C# or Java. Some
> > people say the future is C# and .Net and others say Java.
>
> Don't listen to other people! You'll be using these toolsets
> for a long time. Try both of them and see which you feel
> most comfortable with.
>
> > I am
> > confused between the arguments between the Microsoft and the Java
> > camps. Can you all kindly throw in some enlightenment on the
> > differences between C# and Java and what is the value proposition for
> > somebody starting now in Java or C# to start in them. Also please note
> > my primary development environment is Windows platform which language
> > is the fastest to learn, performance wise and the future of the
> > languages. I have heard that Java as performance issues is that
> > correct and C# is only windows centric ?.
>
> Both Java and C# should be roughly as fast, certainly in the long run
> C# might be portable in the near future but currently it is not.
>
> Basically, if you're worried about vendor lock-in, either choose java
> or wait and see what happens.
>
> One thing I worry about is that microsoft always *starts out*
> looking open, and then later makes changes to force people
> to stick to their platform anyway. They have quite
> a reputation for this indeed.
>
> If you don't mind depending on a single vendor, go .net.
>
>
> > But right now my only
> > development platform will be Windows.
>
> And what's your deployment platform?
>
> Okay well, ummm, what happens if you want to rent a box at a
> co-location facility tomorrow? Lots of companies do this.
> What will it be running? Any idea?
>
> What is your sysadmin running *under* his/her desk?
>
> What if someone goes "Hey, I'll just shove this cheap firewall
> in here, kay?". Firewall boxen tend to multiply. What's it running?
>
> Do you have an art department? (ut oh!)
>
> Are you absolutely *positive* that you will have and keep a
> homogenous work environment? And for how long?
> Do you even really *want* a homogenous environment? (How about
> a "best tool for the job" policy?)
>
> Ask yourself these questions to make sure all your bases are
> covered. If you think your company will remain homogenous for
> the next couple of years, look hard at .net. If you have those
> sneaky admins who are always up to their old tricks... welll....
>
> > I am supposed to make this
> > decision for my company I am free to choose C# or Java.
>
> That's cool!
>
> > Which must I choose and why ?
>
> I can't tell you, you have to decide for yourself. :-)
> I hope I've helped a little though.
>
> Full disclosure: I like java best, so I'm not entirely objective,
> though I've certainly tried my best.
>
> read you soon,
> Kim Bruning
Received on Fri Jan 17 2003 - 10:50:13 CST