Re: Outrage that OCP exams are now unproctored - Comments?

From: DA Morgan <damorgan_at_exesolutions.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 08:15:27 -0800
Message-ID: <3E0B2B1F.34949FD3@exesolutions.com>

"Howard J. Rogers" wrote:

> "Steve Jorgensen" <nospam_at_nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:ccll0v8og5jvhv9e6eko6cdpg61e0lvqos_at_4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 19:23:41 -0000, "Paul Brewer"
> > <paul_at_paul.brewers.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Don Burleson" <don_at_burleson.cc> wrote in message
> > >news:998d28f7.0212250820.5cc2fb6_at_posting.google.com...
> > >> Greetings,
> > >>
> > >> I have heard a rumor that the Oracle9i OCP SQL exam is unproctored:
> > >>
> > >> "The new exam is un-proctored, meaning that you can take the exam
> > >> unsupervised at your own location. If you do not have good internet
> > >> access, proctored exams are delivered in a secure testing environment,
> > >> at an Oracle University Training Center or Authorized Prometric
> > >> Testing Center."
> > >>
> > >> Because there is no guarantee that the person taking the exam is the
> > >> same person who registered for the exam, many DBAs feel that this
> > >> practice degrades the value of Oracle certification, and makes it even
> > >> more worthless than before.
> > >>
> > >> Comments?
> > >
> > >You can't devalue something which was worthless in the first place.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Paul
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Worthless to whom?

>

> To the industry.

>

> Employers worth working for know it's a heap of doo-dah. Employers who think
> it means something aren't worth working for.

>

> Regards
> HJR

>


> >

> > I'm someone with extensive background in MS SQL Server.  In my case,

> > shouldn't Oracle certification show that I've learned the specifics of

> > Oracle, and thus be of great value in conjunction with my long

> > background in relational databases when I apply for a job using

> > Oracle?  To me, the Oracle exam as it has stood until now sounded

> > worthwhile, and this unproctored thing is bothersome to me as I have
> > yet to take the exams and obtain my certification.

Exactly. Just like the Microsoft exams. People that pass the exams can't necessarily do the job. And people that can do the job can't necessarily pass the exams (because too often the official answers are wrong or not mutually exclusive or test complete irrelevancies).

Daniel Morgan Received on Thu Dec 26 2002 - 10:15:27 CST