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Re: DB2 entering Wall Street. Will Oracle be left behind??

From: chan01 <chandra_2000_us_at_yahoo.com>
Date: 18 Nov 2002 19:31:22 -0800
Message-ID: <480cb9d4.0211181931.407d2924@posting.google.com>


Martin Doherty <martin.doherty_at_elcaro.moc> wrote in message news:<iTCA9.9$FE.194_at_news.oracle.com>...
> Edward Lloyd Hillman wrote:
>
> >In article <q9xA9.58$M82.7719032_at_newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
> > Karsten Farrell <kfarrell_at_belgariad.com> writes:
> >
> >
> >>Ronnie Yours wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I am not saying that outsourcing to IBM means an overnight change in
> >>>hardware and software. But it will be a gradual move over a period of
> >>>several years. DB2 has more presence in the financial markets than oracle.
> >>>If you look at the Numbers its Sybase then DB2 right now.
> >>>
> >>>Oracle on the other hand is losing face at a lot of places. For example the
> >>>California Contract. Its a gradual decline for oracle but it looks like its
> >>>coming.
> >>>
> >>>Ron
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Well, Oracle has lost face plenty of times in the past ... but they
> >>don't seem to be going away. Several years ago, they were caught doing
> >>some creative financing, their stock went down temporarily, now no one
> >>remembers that event. Several years ago, Microsoft beat them in some
> >>benchmarks, their stock went down temporarily, now no one remembers that
> >>event.
> >>
> >>Do you see a pattern here? Oracle, in spite of their shortcomings, has
> >>staying power. They have a powerful marketing team. At the rate that
> >>Oracle's "gradual decline" is occuring, it'll be the 22nd Century before
> >>I have to worry about my job.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >This supports an opinion I had for some years; namely, that Oracle is the
> >Micro$oft of database vendors. (It would explain why Gates and Ellison
> >reportedly dislike each other; too much alike.)
> >
> >
> That's pretty funny when you consider that Micro$oft IS a database vendor!

One thing is true, IBM will give the DB2/as400 for free or less cost to lure the customer's and once they agree with that free/low cost software, then the IBM start eating the company on maintenance contracts. Received on Mon Nov 18 2002 - 21:31:22 CST

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